Posted by Sir Jimmy at cpe-66-25-249-53.gt.rr.com on June 13, 2002 at 17:43:17:
In Reply to: okay posted by DRD #37 on June 13, 2002 at 17:28:11:
Okay, now that the plausible thing is cleared up, I want to continue this off-topic discussion, because for some odd reason I love talking about the X-Men movie, even though I didn't like it.
: I agree, but I never said it did. I was just saying that it should remain true, which all comic book films should. And I didn't really mean "realistic", but "dark" or "brooding". X-Men was a lot darker than, say, the Superman films, which is partly why I thought it was so good. So long as the 2nd and 3rd films remain dark like the first, I believe they will be good. (Though this is only my opinion, so you may have a different one.)
Point taken
: : No Beast
: I agree. It should at least have had Beast as a cameo.
I know, they could have at least explained that he was "out of town" or something.
: : Iceman was a teenager
: This didn't really bother me, but I see why it would bother a lot of fans.
Most of this stuff didn't bother me. Overall what bugged me was that so much was unneccessarily incorrect, and not true to the comics.
: : Rogue and Wolverine joining at the same time
: I also didn't have a problem with this, though I'm sure a lot of people did.
Like this. Not a big deal to me, but would it be that hard to just focus on Wolverine joining? I guess I understand that they were trying to parallel how two people react to this organization, but it wasn't needed.
: : Hugh Jackman being a foot taller than Wolverin
: Okay, now that's just nitpicking. Hugh Jackman did a great acting job with Wolverine, and that's all that should matter.
Didn't bug me at all, he did a great job. I know it's impossible to find someone that looks like Wolverine, but in some scenes the height difference did make a difference.
: : Making Magneto Jewish, and a Holocaust survivor (this especially pissed me off because one of the things Stan Lee strived to do was make the superheroes be relatable, and therefore never gave them religious affiliations)
: I actually liked that. It gave Magneto more background, actually making what he did (the whole "hates humanity" thing) somewhat justified.
This really did get stuck in my craw. I read an interview with Stan Lee and he really prided himself on not giving his characters religions. He really wanted to make them like everyday people so that kids could relate to any character. I mean, he's already a minority, so minority kids could relate to his feelings of being an outsider, and take sympathy in his anger, but most kids have no understanding of the Holocaust, and it would make him less relatable (is that a word? it is now...) to, say, someone that didn't watch his parents get taken away to a Concentration Camp where they were brutally murdered by a sick degenerate that was bent on world domination.
: : Toad being a worthy foe against Cyclops, Jean Gray, Storm, etc. (he was one of the weaker villains in the comics)
: This actually did bother me. Out of all the villains they could have chosen, why Toad? I know he was in the Mutant Liberation Front in the comics, but they could have picked a better villain to take his place.
I know. I could think of many better villains, that they could have even got Ray Parks to play. The only thing I liked was that they not only gave him a cooler costume than he had in the comics, but he had one of the coolest outfits of the bunch. And on a side note, I hope the install the little metal thingies in Wolverine's hand by the next movie so it won't hurt so much when he brings out his claws.
: : Wolverine not knowing who Sabretooth was (in the comics, the X-Men didn't know who Sabretooth was, but Wolverine did)
: This bothered me, as well. It was a serious plot point in the comics that they completely ignored in the movie. This pissed me off more than any of the other discrepencies.
And totally unnecessary, too. It also would have given him the chance to get some more good lines with his smartass attitude if he knew about Sabretooth and they had no clue.
: : And the costumes. They didn't have to put them in "Yellow spandex", but one of the things I liked about the suits in the comics was that each X-Men had a distinct suit. In this, they all look the same, and we're expected to believe they just happened to have a suit that was a perfect fit for Wolverine?
: I think one of the reasons they made most of the costumes similar is because there was a time constraint, and it would be too costly to come up with several unique costumes. This, too, did not bother me. And the thing about having a costume that perfecly fit Wolverine is also nitpicking, like the complaint about his height.
I guess, but I just hope the costumes in the next one will be a little more distinct. They don't have to be like the ones in the comic, and it's not like we need to tell them apart, but it's just something I liked about the comic. Like in Mystery Men, the Sphynx talking about how you can't be a good super hero without a good outfit or something...
: :Sorry, it may have been a good film, but it WAS NOT true to the comic.
: I agree.