Posted by Isis at 22.214.171.124 on March 31, 2001 at 14:32:47:
In Reply to: scientology posted by carlo marx on March 31, 2001 at 12:36:52:
Here's the thing; you're perfectly entitled to question any religion and do any research on it that you want, drawing your own conclusions as you please, but in NO WAY does that mean that Jason should have to explain Scientology or justify his participation in the religion. Take your questions to L. Ron, directly.
If some Catholic nut killed his wife and kids tomorrow and claimed God told him to do it, would it be good form to come on here and demand Kevin justify his membership in this "dangerous" religion? No boys and girls, it really wouldn't.
Let's not forget that the mainstream religions have -- and these are not alleged crimes, but historical facts -- killed more people, individually and in massive wars and genocidal efforts, than any alternative sect has ever even been accused of doing. I doubt any individual Christian or Muslim on this board particularly feels like justifying their personal belief in God due to the horrible acts of other members of their religion -- and these are acts that are known to have taken place, not rumors.
So let's show the guy some freakin' respect already? Is it too much to ask? You got a problem with Scientology, take it up with Scientology, not Mr. Lee.
: i guess i'm going to be the only one who has the nerve to speak my mind freely, at the expense of possibly insulting a celebrity, & refuse to apologize for it.
: someone, i don't remember who, made a disparaging remark about scientology.
: jason, perhaps somewhat insulted, responded accordingly, very tactfully asking that he not be judged based on his religious faith. fair enough. but i think it's very important to remember that when one's religion of choice is questioned, or even criticized, that the individual him/herself is not necessarily the target. myself, being an agnostic, i question EVERY religion. & though i find religion utterly unappealing from a personal standpoint, i cannot - & will not - ignore it's significance in other people's lives. thus i do not form opinions based on another's religion.
: but i do believe that religion itself can & should be questioned. granted, i'm not a scientologist, nor have i spoken in depth to any member of this church. but scientology, if what i've read about it can be believed, is a very dangerous, manipulative organization. people have died while undergoing this org's rituals. mental abuse is commonplace. you are required to sign billion year contracts (to insure that you & any future "life" you may have belongs to the church indefinitely). it's whacky. it's scary. why *shouldn't* anyone ask: "what the fuck is going on in that place??" i think it's a perfectly acceptable question that warrants an honest answer.
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