Posted by Übermenschİ at southcity-220.127.116.11.charter-stl.com on May 02, 2004 at 17:56:13:
In Reply to: Re: Difference is that you have faith, I have fact posted by TexasJediPimp on May 02, 2004 at 16:20:29:
: : Finally, I reiterate--there is no evidence which disproves evolution.
: If this is true then answer one question. If we evolved from monkeys, why are there still monkeys???
Humans did not evolve from (what we now call) monkeys but rather we had a common ancestor. More closely related are humans and apes; a few millions of years ago, the human and ape common ancestor branched in to disparate genetic groups which became humans and apes. Homo sapiens is the only representative remaining of genus Homo but we had cousins such as Homo erectus and Homo habilis in the past.
: What were those the "slow learners"??
No, proto-apes evolved in a different environment which selected for different traits than proto-humans. Presumably proto-humans had a greater need for intelligence and manual dexterity and less need for physical strength to survive.
: Humans have had the same form for over 4000 years, are we as "evolved" as it gets.
Humans and apes in general have very long generational times and thus will take longer for evolution to be noticeably physically manifested. Your 4000 year time frame is a drop in the bucket in the course of evolutionary history. Genus Homo branched off approximately 2.5 million years ago and species sapiens arose ~200,000 years ago. During that time, our skulls have increased in volume to accomodate larger brains and our posture has become more upright.
: Im not saying I believe in one way or another, but evolution does have some holes in its "facts" and "answers."
Evolutionary theory is not perfect. Neither are quantum mechanics, Einsteinian physics, nor atomic theory. All are conceptual frameworks that predict novel outcomes to controlled experiments that fit current and presumably future data.
No credible scientist dismisses evolution wholesale. There are pieces of the theory that need further study and verification to allay controversy but the overall gist of the model is sound. I cannot stress this strong enough--there is no evidence disproving evolutionary theory.
: Now your attack on someones faith, well it was tacky but I guess you have the right to believe whatever you like.
I crusase against irrationality, logical fallacy, and willful ignorance; faith is synonymous with all of these. I will not apologize for attempting to correct a person's misconceptions that are blatantly dissonant with reality.
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