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Posted by sean at threshold8n.jpmorgan.com on April 17, 2002 at 13:48:28:

In Reply to: Venom sucked nuts... posted by Pimped-Out-Jedi-Knight on April 17, 2002 at 13:44:34:

: ...as do a lot of 'alien' super-villains. I mean, sure he was pretty intimidating, but as a villain, he just seemed pretty one-dimensional - he needed a motive to kill Spidey other than 'I'm a nasty alien'.

His motive for killing Spider-Man was that both he and Eddie Brock had a deep-seeded hatred for the webslinger, based partially on Brock's slightly psychotic temper. The idea that (a) an entire character could stem from a shitty, stupid old "let's give the hero a new costume so he'll have a new look" idea, (b) the Spider-sense didn't work on him (though Ben Reilly's did), and (c) he wound up being more than just a crazy guy with a lot of power [which is what Carnage wound up being used as], but instead had morals and such ... I don't know, I feel like they did a lot of interesting stuff with the whole doppelganger idea that gets done to death in comics, but rarely as well as Spider-Man & Venom. Hell, they even tried to make Spider-Man's evil (Infinity War) doppelganger part of the whole Venom / Carnage thing, if I remember Maximum Carnage correctly, just so they could show a shitty version of the doppelganger idea (I think he even wound up becoming the sidekick to Hobgoblin's evil doppelganger).


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