Posted by Suplee_Mental at 209.107.0.57 on May 02, 2004 at 12:32:19:
In Reply to: I wasn't saying I agreed with it posted by Will Turner, Karaoke King on May 02, 2004 at 12:15:17:
fuck. I hope I don't run into Lamont from the block. We had a wicked bet about that very thing back in the day. I'd hate to have to part with my millenium falcon after all these years.
nah...I see what you are saying. I dunno. I think my jaw dropped when I watched it because it made me question too much stuff that had been neatly compartmentalized.
: I just touted it as a possibility. It didn't happen, so we'll never know. There was a show on BBC2 recently called If... with all these predictions about the future (The full titles were "If we don't stop eating", "If all the lights go out" etc). They made it look like a documentary (Talking heads etc) but it was all what could happen in the future, which is stupid because nobody could predict the future (When War Games came out in 1982, a critic said that nobody could possibly believe that computers could talk to each other!)
: : true, we've evolved as a race of beings to a more nonviolent way of handling things (stop! turn your head this way. That's not a bloody mess in the middle east), but we certainly are not less competitive.
: : And the program wasn't referring to human life as we know or remember or parents remember or their parents remember it to be. they were talking about early man with small brains, and what happened to make them grow.
: : they say it was the introduction of meat into their diets.
: : : I don't personally agree with this (meat eater, but I respect vegetarians and can cook a kick ass penne arrabiata) but it could be argued we'd evolve into a non-competitive, co-operative society.
: : : : to put down vegetarians.
: : : : I honestly have always had a great deal of respect for them. To me, it is like you really are doing something about what you believe. I mean, I've always believed that their really isn't a reason to slaughter animals for meat. Sure it's tasty and has protien and what not, but so do soy products, and misc nuts, and prolly tons of other stuff. Still, I could never give up meat. I love it so, and even if I thought I didn't need it, I still hunger for it and use the typical excuses for myself, like my shoes are cow leather and my wallet is
: : : : eel leather and what not.
: : : : I guess I felt stupid watching the show because I had never heard this thing about meat before, and if it is true, it forces me to change my view of vegans and meat and eating in general.
: : : :
: : : : : : so I'm watching this show on discovery or science or whatever they are calling it these days, and they say that the reason we have evolved into competitive, smart, reasoning humans all came from early man deciding to begin eating meat.
: : : : : : so, if meat eating is being creditied to the evolution of our minds, why would anyone decide to go back to the diet we had (plant life) back when we grunted at eachother and basically had the reasoning ability of a 3 year old
: : : : : : (they actually drew that comparison, because a humans competitive instincts don't kick in until after 3 years of age, before that they have no ability to imagine how other people see them: the ability that gives birth to so many of our instincts)
: : : : : : I used to have a great respect for non-meat eaters. Now I worry that they are working against human evolution, even trying (unwittingly) to set our species back.
: : : : : : thoughts?