The Temple of Isu

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Posted by dottikam at on August 22, 2003 at 18:00:10:

In Reply to: Re: Response posted by Kevin on August 22, 2003 at 15:30:38:

: : : If you doubt the Bible holds water as said accurate description, that's a you against the
: world, "Dogma"- type argument (trust me, I know); because most of the world - religious
: and secular - acknowledges the four Gospels as the historical record of Jesus' life and death.

: : From where do you draw this statement? I haven't talked to most of the world lately, so I
: honestly don't know.

: Isis, from most of your posts, I've come to the conclusion that you're smarter than this.

: : Do you mean that the Gospels are the ONLY record of Jesus' life and death?

: Yes. And as such are considered, academically as well as theologically, as historical
: documents.

: : Because I can agree with that. But they aren't a "historical record". We haven't exactly got
: a birth certificate for the guy nor is there any physical record of him on the Roman census.

: From Luke:21-3

: "In those days Caesar Augustus issued a decree that a census should be taken of the entire
: Roman world. And everyone went to his own town to register."

: Apparently, this passage in Luke refers to the first census that took place while Quirinius
: was governor of Syria.

: However, no Roman Census was held to be absolute.

: If you got to...


:'ll find this note at the bottom of the page:

: "Note: All the figures given are problematical, in various ways. First, there is the problem of
: the correct transmission of numbers in the manuscripts. Second, there is the issue of who
: precisely are being counted in each census. Third, there is the question as to whether
: complete census returns were ever made. Most authorities find it difficult to believe that
: statistics prior to 340 B.C. are anything but fictitious."

: But this, like much history, is muddled due to the subjective nature of the historical
: experience. I'm sure there are over a hundred different versions of the night Lincoln was
: shot, based on all the witnesses in the theater. But eventually, one version of the story
: (perhaps one comprised of the multiple versions) becomes the historically accepted factual
: account of the death of Lincoln. So, too, with the life and death of Jesus. You can stomp
: your feet all you want, crying "Bullshit - he's not in the Roman Census!" Hell, I'll even join
: you in aspects of your debate about the historic Jesus; however, only a willful ignoramus
: rails against the fact that the Bible (like it or not) is an historically accepted account of the
: life of Christ.

: You realize this is like an argument over what color blue is, right? Maybe you don't agree
: with the rest of the world on the subject, but blue has been roundly agreed to as being blue.

: : And obviously, if the story is true there's no remains of him to be found.

: Apparently remains have been found. There are reports of bones in both France and Japan
: that are rumored to be Jesus'.

There is also the temple of Isu (sanskrit for Jesus) in India.

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