why god hates jay and silent bob strike back


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Posted by dayzedANDconfuzed at 24-205-66-121.glen-dyn.charterpipeline.com on November 29, 2001 at 00:38:27:

how ya doing guys. i recently found this website that was like a screenit.com but had one big difference. screenit as u kno gives movies review for parents, listing profane things from the film, like cussing or sex or violence. well this new one i found out is just like it, but its set up by jesus freaks, listing why every film is evil. even if a movie is good, like schindlers list or saving privite ryan, just because it has violence and cussing its a bad movie. screen it judges it on an artistic level. screen it gave jasbsb a passing grade by the way. so i was on this jesus freak movie site and read the one for jay and silent bob. absolutly hysterical. they gave bible passages as to why this movie is sin. ill post it all here. by the way they dont have clerks. here it is. im not sure of the website, i forgot it, but if its down bolow thats cool or ill post it.


There is much more to the show but little is to be gained by further revealing of the plot. Know that throughout the movie were not only constant use of foul language and illegal drug matters, frequent comments and mannerisms about sexuality, both heterosexual and homosexuality, both positive and negative permeated the script and choreography [Gal. 5:19]. While a gay activist group is taking Smith to task because of what they perceive as anti-gay programming, this movie promoted homosexuality as much as any other movie which frequently brings it up. Understand that just because a line of the script insults the homosexual lifestyle does not mean homosexuality is not promoted by it -- getting bad "press" (attention) is better than no "press" regarding getting noticed. One of the most effective techniques of getting people to buy specific commodities or services is to aggressively flood the media with mentions of them.
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There is no benefit to insulting they who choose to practice homosexuality as was often done in Jay and Silent Bob. Insulting someone can start fights. Recall the schoolyard. What got the most attention the fastest? Answer: a fight. And indeed a fight has started surrounding this movie with homosexuality being the center of attention. Further, insulting he/she who chooses to practice homosexuality may do emotional harm as well as worsen the grip of homosexuality on the practitioner. We as Christians are to do what we can through love and compassion to help the sinner (even ourselves) out of bondage to sin by telling the Truth. Humbly make sure they know the truth and then let Jesus do His Job. We are NOT to tolerate, embrace, condone or accept sin (even our own) to "reach" the sinner. Jesus never has. We are free and indeed admonished to hate sin. God does. [Prov. 6:16-19] But never hate the sinner. God does not [John 3:16]. The homosexual practitioner and any other sinner, including ourselves, are precious to Jesus -- so precious that He let Himself be killed to pay the price of sin.

A couple more instances of unacceptable programming included a man-hating woman insulting a man for being a man and he replying with "Only on the outside" in a whimpering way. Apparently trying to reflect the real world, mention was made of a gay pair adopting children. And there is much locker room vulgarity in this 98 minute flick [Eph. 5:4]. There is much, much more to the findings of sinful programming in Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back. Restricted movies typically require two to three recording logs-this movie took five. I am going to let the Findings/Scoring section present them all (all that I could capture anyway).


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SCRIPTURAL APPLICATION(S)
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1Cor. 6:9-10 Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
Mark 6:22-25 And when the daughter of the said Herodias came in, and danced, and pleased Herod and them that sat with him, the king said unto the damsel, Ask of me whatsoever thou wilt, and I will give it thee. And he sware unto her, Whatsoever thou shalt ask of me, I will give it thee, unto the half of my kingdom. And she went forth, and said unto her mother, What shall I ask? And she said, The head of John the Baptist. And she came in straightway with haste unto the king, and asked, saying, I will that thou give me by and by in a charger the head of John the Baptist.
Gal. 5:19 The acts of the sinful nature are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery;
Prov. 6:16-19 There are six things the LORD hates, seven that are detestable to him: haughty eyes, a lying tongue, hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that devises wicked schemes, feet that are quick to rush into evil, a false witness who pours out lies and a man who stirs up dissension among brothers.
John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. ["the world" is everyone - inclusive]
Eph. 5:4 Nor should there be obscenity, foolish talk or coarse joking, which are out of place, but rather thanksgiving.

*******Food for Thought*******

1 Cor. 15:33 (KJV) Be not deceived: evil communications corrupt good manners. (NIV) Do not be misled: Bad company corrupts good character.
Jude 4 For certain men* whose condemnation was written about long ago have secretly slipped in among you. They are godless men, who change the grace of our God into a license for immorality and deny Jesus Christ our only Sovereign and Lord. [*men: anthropos {anth'-ro-pos}, generic, a human being, whether male or female]

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As always, it is best to refer to the Findings/Scoring section -- the heart of the CAP analysis model -- for the most complete assessment possible of this movie.


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FINDINGS / SCORING:

NOTE: Multiple occurrences of each item described below may be likely, definitely when plural.

Wanton Violence/Crime (W):

two individual instances of leaving a toddler alone in a stroller in front of a convenience store
threatening a child
breaking and entering
robbery
gunfire to arrest
great fall
reckless gunfire
beating kids
gun battle

Impudence/Hate (I)(1):

at least 224 uses of the most foul of the foul words
at least 184 uses of the rest of the three/four letter word vocabulary
flatulence - repeatedly
"Gay. Straight. It's all the same."
'pity me because I am black' sequence
song of foul words

Sex/Homosexuality (S):

vulgar expressions and gestures - many
rear nudity - multiple
much toilet humor
vulgar sexual comments, talk, anatomical references - many
portrayal of oral sex, both hetero and homosexual
lesbianism suggestion
adults in underwear - repeatedly
dressing and maneuvers to maximize the female form and/or skin exposure
self touching - repeatedly, some vulgar
licking tongue kissing
vulgar display re: erection (clothed)
inappropriate touch
vulgar dancing
sexual innuendo, talk, comments
vulgar movements
suggestive eye movement
request for sex
insults of the homosexual/lesbian practitioner - several
sex invitation
mention of gays adopting children
homosexual mannerisms and/or talk - many, some vulgar
portrayal of oral sex (unseen but obvious)
vulgar poster
ghosting of female anatomy through clothing
"Only on the outside" (homosexual innuendo)
gaping face kissing

Drugs/Alcohol (D):

song of drug/alcohol abuse
smoking cigarettes - several
possession of illegal drugs
smoking dope
drinking
selling illegal drugs

Offense to God (O)(2):

one use of God's name in vain with the four letter expletive, 21 without
mockery of God and faith
mockery of "Saved by the Lord"
mockery of an angel

Murder/Suicide (M)(3):

none noted




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