Posted by markchd at spider-tm033.proxy.aol.com on August 01, 2001 at 11:12:37:
In Reply to: Buggerit! Missed the whole damn GLAAD thread! posted by Bob Wombat on August 01, 2001 at 09:10:58:
: Alright . . .
: I've got to say something about all this. I feel like it's a duty of mine or some shit, seeing as I'm both a gay man and a huge Kev fan.
: Now, I like to think I've got a pretty fucking good sense of humour about stuff like this. Certainly a much better sense of humour than the kids at GLAAD, by the sound of it. From what I know of GLAAD (being Australian and thus not hearing a whole hell of a lot about them in the local media, I'm not exactly 'au fait'), they sound to me as though they aren't so much aiming for a society in which all people, regardless of sexual preference, are treated equally; but rather, reinforcing the cultural divide by pointing out differences and hurling the dreaded 'homophobe' tag at any poor soul who happens to say something that they don't 100% agree with.
: Fuck that. That sort of behaviour isn't going to win anybody over. In a perfect world, gays would be accepted and things would be left at that. No persecution or hostility, but no having to be treated with kid gloves, either. I fucking hate it when my straight mates tip-toeing around me offering "Did I offend you?"s and the like. Why do they think they need to do that? People like GLAAD, getting all up-tight over the most trivial matters.
: We gays don't make ourselves easy to accept, sometimes. I'll admit that, any day. With my country's own Sydnay Gay and Lesbian Mardi Gras slowly degenerating from a colourful display of gay pride that you could take the whole damn family to, to a gaudy and some might say debauched "fuck you" to the conservative, no-so-gay-freindly straight community (Even though they CAN go get fucked, just quietly), I can quite easily see why plenty of bad blood remains. It's not only small-minded straight people perpetuating fruity and decadent gay stereotypes - a lot of us are doing it ourselves, what with the fact that the vocal majority of gay men are fruity as all get-out. Me, I haven't got a fruity bone in my body (pardon the double-entendre), and actually kinda take pride in just how darned masculine I am. As I told my friends when I came out: "I might be a poof, but I'm still a bloke." The world needs to know that we're not all camp stereotypes, and many of us could kick the crap out of you if you had the balls enough to fight us one on one. Chickenshits.
: Mind now, I'm not having a go at fruity men, gay or straight (yeah, that's right - they're not just limited to the ONE sexuality). Hell, if that's how you are, cool. I just take issue with being put into the same catagory just 'cause I don't pot the pink. That's why I'm always yelling about arseholes using 'gay' as a synonym for 'fruity'. One's got fuck-all to do with the other, in reality, and don't you fuckers be forgetting it.
: But back to the subject at hand:
: I haven't seen Kev's new movie yet (Fucking NOVEMBER 29TH!! Can you BELIEVE that shit??), but I'm sure I'll laugh my arse off when I do. The man's made me laugh plenty in the past, and I count him as something of an inspiration when it comes to my own writing. Now, while I do agree to some extent with what GLAAD is getting at in regards to the use of the word 'gay' as an adjective to describe something unacceptable - which is something I fucking despise - I do understand that Kev is aiming for satire. However, like many posters over the last day or so, I must also point out that a hell of a lot of the people in the audience will not get the joke. All they'll see is our boy Mewes calling shit they don't like 'gay', recognise that fucking stupid attitude in themselves (just not as 'fucking stupid', but as 'correct'), and it'll be reinforced.
: I won't mince words here - the general movie-going audience are a pack of fucking idiots. How else could Scary Movie have made so much fucking money (Where is the humour beyond the Shaq gag at the start, huh!? WHERE!?), or Adam Sandler, Freddie Prinze Jr and just about every single so-called 'band', 'group' and 'performer' on the pop music charts continue to have a fucking career?
: Subtlty, wit, irony . . . concepts like these are lost on most people. Particularly to the majority of the "teen and young adult male" audience GLAAD reckon Jay and Silent Bob will attract. Hell, take a look at some of the morons who post on this very board - dropping inane questions, *quite wittily* slinging homophobic insults at anyone who dares tell them they should've read the summaries before posting, and then ending with a Jay quote to 'prove' they know what they're on about, VA-wise. Generally, of course, they turn out to be fifteen-year-olds, intellectual light-weights or sad and desperate virgins (or a combination of all three), with a nasty case of Tiny Dick Syndrome.
: (I swear, this is a serious disease. A foundation should be established. Tiny dicks and the debilitating insecurities they inspire are the cause of all the world's troubles. If every man was a comfortable 8 inches, the world would be a much happier place.)
: The sad fact that these morons don't understand satire - but rather, require their comedy to be as subtle as a swift kick to the agates - is no fault of Kev's. However, the fact has to be faced that this kind of comedy can and will be interpreted the wrong way by stupid people - who are, sadly, in abundance.
: All that being said, to anyone who still has a problem with gays: ten minutes incurring the wrath of my ample member'd have you fuckers singing a different tune.
: In fucking falsetto, at that.
: Cheers.
: Bob Wombat.
: PS: Kev, Happy Birthday for Thursday. If I were a different man, I'd probably fly over there and sing it to you Marilyn-style. I couldn't afford the air-fare, anyway. Or the fucking dress.