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: How can this be a man-hating thing when I'm complaining about a fictional situation when a *man* is being raped? : Just wondering. : -- i the feminist? : : ...isn't that just as politically incorrect as anything I've said. What if I told you my brother was retarded? Obviously, I'm not...but there are those who are. It just shows a little hypocrisy in your proceeding statement, is all... : : : : What is with you feminists? : : : : : : I don't know. And what's with those jews? And how about those blacks? : : : You are an asshole, and the worst kind at that. : : Unless feminists are a new race touching upon our soil, I wouldn't know. I have black friends and Jewish friends. Nothing wrong with them at all, in my view. I agree with you, I am an asshole for saying some of the things I say...but are you implying I'm a racist? : : : : I bet you'd like to just line up every guy in the world, have them rest their manhood on a stone block, and then walk by with an axe, and go chop-happy. : : : This speaks more to your fear of emasculation/humiliation than anything else. The beam is in your eye. Isis don't even have a mote in hers on in this exchange. : : No, it merely speaks of these seemingly man-hating women, who feel that every guy who wants to get to know them, is ONLY in it for the chance to fuck her and dump her. It's a pre-conceived notion, and it's wrong. I don't feel it's right, that since I'm a guy, I should be categorized with rapists or sex offenders. : : : : : : because in this day and age, females have the same rights as males, and are treated better, when it comes to morality. : : : Dude, if I had a magic wand and was able to turn you into a woman for a two month stretch, you'd be singing a wholly different tune. Consider this: You've worked late, want to get the bosses approval. Stayed 'till everyone else is gone. Your office is in an office building with other businesses. : : : You press the elevator button, and it opens. There's a guy in there, and you get a bad, bad vibe, and you are very aware of how alone you are. : : : IS IT BETTER TO BE A MAN OR WOMEN IN THAT SCENARIO? : : A man. : : : You've not taken a STEP in any woman's moccasins, Pseudo-intellectual. You have not a clue. : : True. : : : : : : Take for instance sexual harrassment. I'm at the copy machine, and I grab this red-headed hottie's ass while she stands next to me. She slaps me and/or kicks me in the groin, and she storms into her boss's office. 10 minutes later, I'm getting hand-cuffs slapped on my wrists, and I'm being escorted out. As a rapist. : : : : : : : Scenario 2. I'm sitting at my desk at work, and the same red-headed hottie walks into my office. She gets up on my desk, and starts doing a strip-tease. When she's finished, she grabs me, and demands me to--well, ya know. I do it. The next day I arrive at work, I find out I'm fired, and 2 cops arrest me, and escort me out. She's charging me with rape. But it was consensual. But how do they know that? She's just an innocent, defenseless, little woman, right? : : : Lotsa anger here. You don't get much play, no? If the world were just better looking, we'd have much less crime. : : No, I do...but I felt that was a legitimate statement. Evidently, it's the fact that I feel that way which makes me an asshole, unfortunately. : : : Fact is, women ARE routinely harassed, made to feel uncomfortable, and put in awkward situations TO THIS VERY DAY, mon frer. Much more often than the "evil conniving woman" scenario you paint. : : I know. But it's reciprocal, as well. But men never tell, because we'd enjoy it. It's either that or the embarassment. Men get raped by women, too, ya know. It just isn't as common. I didn't say all women are evil...I said that some are just as manipulative as men. We are equal, anyway, aren't we? : : : You've got to have a mother. Do you have 2 aunts? If so, spin the wheel my friend. At least one of them was probably assaulted. Really. : : Yeah, but I don't know if my mother faced something like that. I have 1 aunt, and I don't know about that either. I'm sure I frequently encount someone who has been assaulted, though. : : : You'd be fucking SHOCKED to know just how many of the women and girls you know have been raped, or assaulted. I used to think along the same lines as you, until some friends opened up to me, and some others, and some others, and some others. It's enough to send you into a rightous, homocidal rage. Or enough to tax your sense of humor, in Isis' case. : : If you used the think the same way as me, why am I retarded and an asshole? I'm 18, you know...my views may change when I settle down and grow older. I hope they do. : : : It is NOT a situation of equal peril. Isis may indeed be trumpeting loudly here, but she's on the side of the angels on this one. : : Trumpeting loud would be an understatement. She's selling this idea that women are the lone victims, and whenever a man and a woman have a quarrel about anything, the man is always wrong. And that, friend, isn't right. : : : I *do* think that ANYTHING, in the right context, can be funny, or be presented in such a way that there's a chance to laugh. But finding that right context, and that perfect delivery, is a tricky deal. Especially when emotions run so high. : : Emotions do run high, but I try to be as tongue-in-cheek about it as possible. People's thoughts and opinions are scattered and incalculably varied. But...you blow what I say way out of proportion, man.

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