Posted by John Walker at host213-122-24-183.btinternet.com on May 26, 2001 at 09:41:38:
In Reply to: and another thing... posted by Charlton Heston on May 25, 2001 at 09:18:49:
: My uncle died at Pearl Harbor so you could post your drivel on this web board. He is probably rolling over in his fucking grave.
Next to the millions upon millions upon millions of others (from other countries) whose contribution is largely ignored when America makes a war movie.
And for someone who names themself after Charlton Heston(!) here's some facts to pass on to your NRA buddies:
In 1994 there were 38,505 firearm-related deaths. These included:
- over 17,800 firearm-related homicides
- over 18,700 firearm-related suicides
- over 1,300 unintentional deaths related to firearms.
It is estimated that there are approximately 3 nonfatal firearm injuries for every death associated with a firearm.
In 1990, firearm injuries cost over $20.4 billion in both direct costs for hospital and other medical care, and in indirect costs for long-term disability and premature death.
At least 80% of the economic costs of treating firearm injuries are paid for by taxpayer dollars.
"Firearm assaults on family members and other intimate acquaintances are 12 times more likely to result in death than are assaults using other weapons."
"People living in households in which guns are kept have a risk of suicide that is 5 times greater than people living in households without guns."
Taken from: http://www.cdc.gov/ncipc/factsheets/fafacts.htm (The National Center for Injury Prevention)
To quote the great American comedian Bill Hicks:
"Like, I was over in England. You ever been to England, anyone, been to England? No one has handguns in England, not even the cops. True or false?
True.
Now-in England last year, they had fourteen deaths from handguns.
FFFFFourteen.
Now-the United States, and I think you know how we feel about handguns -woooo, I'm getting a warm tingly feeling just saying the fucking word, to be honest with you. I swear to you, I am hard. Twenty-three thousand deaths from handguns. Now let's go through those numbers again, because they're a little baffling at first glance. England, where no one has guns, fffffffourteen deaths. United States, and I think you know how we feel about guns (woooo, I'm getting a stiffy) twenty-three thousand (23,000!)deaths from handguns. But there's no connection, and you'd be a fool and a Communist to make one. There's no connection between having a gun and shooting someone with it, and not having a gun and not shooting someone. There have been studies made and there is no connection at all there. Yes. That's absolute proof. You know, fourteen deaths from handguns."
The info is a little out of date now.
Cops in the UK have guns on special occassions and now the death by guns has gone up to about 40. The USA has five times the population of England, that's a pretty big descrepancy.
~ John