Re: I'm always careful

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: : >And while I agree with you about "standing in the middle of the road", don't believe that Christianity is the only "right" side of the road, nor do I see how the film can be used as an argument in the defense of that position. : : Well, I guess it was the recurring morale that ideas are more important than beliefs that led me to that conclusion. : I don't follow your train of logic there. : : The film seemed to take the position that there is no absolute truth, which is, in and of itself, a contradiction. My point being that there is a (singular) right side of the road - the truth is the truth, there is no maybe - and if you don't believe Christianity is it, then you should have something that you do believe is the truth. This belief should be based on some serious seeking on your own part. : However, the film directly states that no religion has gotten it right yet. : I think we're basically in agreement on the seeking part and I think that's the most important message that Kevin was trying to get across: It's ok to be searching... to have not yet found what road you're going to take, but actively seeking the right road. : : > I think it is you who grafted your own ideas over the top of what Kevin was trying to say and ended up skewing it. : : Yeah, I am probably guilty of grafting my own ideas on top of the movie, but it's tough not to when the movie uses my faith as an illustration. The important clarification to be made here is that I think it does matter to God what religion you are, since religions have very different ideas about the nature of God, many which are in contradiction to one another. : That's true, but I can't see how God cares about any of these things, most of which are trifles. The notion of God as a tremendous egotist, as he is in many places, is the height of absurdity to me. I can neither comprehend why God would be so, nor can I love or respect such a deity. : : Now I will agree that people make waaay too big a deal over Christian denominations - especially Catholic and Protestant. I'm sure that God could care less what denomination you are as long as you believe that He existed in human form as Jesus Christ and died to reconcile our relationship with Him. See that's the thing that sets Christianity apart from all other world religions - it rises and falls around Jesus. So from my point of view, it does matter that you make at least one choice - the choice to believe in Christ as the Son of God. : I think Christ was sent to teach a lesson, but I don't think that learning the lesson through him is the only way. : I used to hear the Catholics in my school going on with weird debates about when a person was no longer innocent enough in the eyes of God to be forgiven for not accepting Christ as their savior and such. As I see it, not all the world's people are given the choice to accept Christ as their savior. Literally millions of people grow up in places where such a thing isn't even presented to them as an option. : I think that God sees what's in our hearts, our actions and how we go about trying to live a good life and judges us much more strongly on these things than on the specific conclusions we come to in order to do them. Anything else just doesn't sound like a very divine means of judgement in my eyes. I'd much rather be damned for eternity than worship a deity who sounds to my ears to be a fucker. : Of course, I also believe that St. Paul was one of history's greatest villains, a liar and a con. I don't believe for even a second that Christ spoke to him from beyond. I think he warped and nearly destroyed the message that Christ was trying to bring. As such, I don't believe about 1/3 of the New Testament to be anything but an enormous lie. : *shrug*

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