Posted by SKeller at proxy2-external.vista1.sdca.home.com on November 14, 1999 at 04:11:49:
In Reply to: Re: Cuz he was watching the Packers.... posted by dave19 on November 14, 1999 at 01:44:52:
: : Bartleby didn't know b/c he has been in Wisconsin for God knows how long. I don't know about Loki but I think that Bartleby was forgiven by God. I only assume that Loki was as well. Anyone else have any other opinions?
Yeah: neither one got absolved before being killed. Hence God still had every right to be upset for their earlier falling out. Additionally, Bartelby killed a TON of people before being killed (Loki did too, but his were out of a misplaced sense of trying to aid God) and Bartelby essentially became a mini-Lucifer there at the end. At the same time, the scene between Bartelby and God was very enigmatic... I'm not so sure it's supposed to be easy to understand what happened.
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: yeah loki went to heaven i believe. he died as a human, and was trying to stop the whole thing. heres my religious question to confuse things though. if they had just become humans (somewhat like when a child is born) according to catholicism they are born with original sin that needs to be removed by baptism. couldnt they have gone to hell just because of that original sin? eh? eh?
: dave
Well, first off with them it's moot -- becoming human didn't absolve them of their sins as angels. They had to pass through the arch and get the indulgence to do that. Now I'm not sure of your question about babies, I'm not Catholic and can't speak for them... interesting question, perhaps someone with a better religious background could answer.