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- "Revenge of the Sith" is, quite simply, fu<i>c</i>king awesome. This is the "Star Wars" prequel the haters have been bitching for since "Menace" came out

Wait, in Clerks: The Animated Series, didn't Dante call George Lucas to the witness stand and demand his 9 bucks back after having to sit through The Phantom Menace? And he's pointing the 'hater' card at others?

I think a certain person was a little geek-struck upon invitation from Mr. "Empire Strikes Back" himself to view a test screening that he went a little overboard with his praise.

And didn't KS call Jersey Girl his "best film yet?"

Anyway, if ROTS is as much an improvement over AOTC as AOTC was over TPM (which is entirely based on how much lameness he manages to avoid with his dialogue/poor direction etc., and how much he stresses the few things he does right) than I'll be satisfied (barely, though).

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Wait, in Clerks: The Animated Series, didn't Dante call George Lucas to the witness stand and demand his 9 bucks back after having to sit through The Phantom Menace? And he's pointing the 'hater' card at others?
Are you suggesting that Dante's actions solely reflect the opinions of Kevin Smith and that we can use that character as a barometer for all of KS's opinions and beliefs?

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Still waiting for GOOD REASONS...not cynical OPINIONS.
They're great reasons what are you talking about.

Name me a good Kevin Smith film. Go ahead, I dare you!

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Now I know Kevin has been kind to the other two
Which is odd, because I remember reading an article he wrote for July/August 2002 issue of Film Comment where he called watching the prequels like watching a train wreck. Not exactly the kind of praise I'd want for my movie.
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which to me isn't a<i>s</i>s-kissing cuz I liked them too.
No, but he may be, especially if the rumors are true that he'll get to direct a trio of episodes for the new SW television series.

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They're great reasons what are you talking about.

Name me a good Kevin Smith film. Go ahead, I dare you!

Clerks, Chasing Amy, Dogma...

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Smith is an unapologetic Star Wars fanboy, which is fine. I appreciate anyone who can be so unabashed in their opinion, especially in the face of overwhelming cynicism about the current state of Star Wars.

That said, I think relatively little of his filmography, as long as we're tangentally mentioning that. I find Clerks overrated, Chasing Amy juvenile, Dogma heavy-handed. Perhaps ironically, Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back is my favorite film of his, mostly because it is an unrestrained exercise in humorous self-indulgence, a filmmaking trait I think Smith is extremely gifted at. It's juvenile, funny, and has no pretensions to being more than that -- something I cannot say for the rest of his work.

I think Kevin Smith's films are funny, but not particulary insightful if you're over, say, 19 or so. That said, I take his review of Episode III as extremely good news.

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I find Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back quite funny as well. In fact, the only Smith movie I can't stand is Jersey Girl. But as I mentioned earlier in the thread, if anyone wants to see Kevin Smith at his best, check out some of his work on the Daredevil books.

I think his review of Sith is great news. He's a fan boy, and although I wasn't completely happy with the other two prequels I'm a fan boy as well.

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Clerks, Chasing Amy, Dogma...
Those aren't good films!

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Those aren't good films!

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Try again.

That's why Chasing Amy has over 90 percent approval here right?

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That's why Chasing Amy has over 90 percent approval here right?
While I disagree with SSF on Chasing Amy, the tomatometer won't change the fact that he didn't like it.

Besides, does the quality of his films really have anything to do with this?

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Are you suggesting that Dante's actions solely reflect the opinions of Kevin Smith and that we can use that character as a barometer for all of KS's opinions and beliefs?
It's not just a coincidence that 90% of Kevin Smith's characters are comic-book loving Star Wars geeks.

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As much as I love Kevin Smith as a writer I have to keep in mind the fact that he is an unapolegetic, diehard SW fanboy and defends the first the two prequels with the same passion found in his ROTS review. Given also the fact that Lucas hand picked him to work on the SW TV series also doesn't lend well to his objectivity.

Seriously, Smith has his head so far up Lucas's a<i>s</i>s that he uses the light coming down his throat to read.

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While I disagree with SSF on Chasing Amy, the tomatometer won't change the fact that he didn't like it.

Besides, does the quality of his films really have anything to do with this?

Nah not really. But I was pointing out the fact that it's well liked.

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I skipped the spoilers from this review, but is this ACTUALLY Kevin Smith's review? If it is, I'm stoked.

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Yes, it's genuine. But like posters above have mentioned...Kevin loves all the prequels.

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That's why Chasing Amy has over 90 percent approval here right?
An especially good reason!
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Besides, does the quality of his films really have anything to do with this?
Sure it does! If Kevin Smith was a smarter man he'd make better movies. But alas he is not a smarter man, which explains why he loves Star Wars prequels.
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Smith has his head so far up Lucas's a<i>s</i>s that he uses the light coming down his throat to read.
I like this comment the best. I so harsly proves that anyone who takes value in anything Smith says about Star Wars (or anything he says period...if I may add) is a duchebag.

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Smith is an unapologetic Star Wars fanboy, which is fine. I appreciate anyone who can be so unabashed in their opinion, especially in the face of overwhelming cynicism about the current state of Star Wars.

That said, I think relatively little of his filmography, as long as we're tangentally mentioning that. I find Clerks overrated, Chasing Amy juvenile, Dogma heavy-handed. Perhaps ironically, Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back is my favorite film of his, mostly because it is an unrestrained exercise in humorous self-indulgence, a filmmaking trait I think Smith is extremely gifted at. It's juvenile, funny, and has no pretensions to being more than that -- something I cannot say for the rest of his work.

I think Kevin Smith's films are funny, but not particulary insightful if you're over, say, 19 or so. That said, I take his review of Episode III as extremely good news.

Definitely agree about Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back. I dont agree about Chasing Amy though. It seems almost humble in its juvenile quest for truthfulness. And that is interesting.


About his review of Episode III, it's kind of irritating when talkes about it being "dark, dark, dark". As long as its fun Im cool. I remember watching that speeder chase scene in Attack of the Clones, and I literally felt my stomach and bladder elevate...hehe, nice sensations. Overall, I sympathize less with Anakin than with his circumstances much like Luke Skywalker. The circumstances are more the basis for the drama then anything else. In the spirit of these films, it seems the weight of their drama is measured by how much what they do effects those around them, which is why "Return of the Jedi" ends with this kind of social celebration as they seem to be like "hey guys we made it through and that must be worth something". As Hermit-like and reclusive as Lucas seems, his films, yes, all of them, in their ideology do not. The implications of Anakin's actions will be far weightier than our sympathy towards him. His actions will have an effect on all the characters so that we eventually find ourselves sympathizing with one of them, whether they be Obi-Wan, Padme, or even Yoda. This story seems more focused to me, whereas the original one seems to stray towards the Han-Leia subplot almost overwhelming the main plot thread which is one between a father and son. I find this whole saga particularly interesting because of the number of replacement surrogate father-figures throughout the films. Han Solo is cool but he's still just a really cool side character.

As enamored with the father-son thread as Star Wars fanboys seem with ESB, they often talk about the Han Solo-Leia scene with the carbonate. ROTJ gets so often so brutally discredited for its ewoks (of whom Im fond, heh) when it has some of the most touching father-son scenes reaching an almost gruesomely operatic peak that continued from ESB. Why do fanboys obsess so much over Jango Fett, the Greedo scene, and Han Solo. This is ultimately a story about the sins of the father or even the surrogate father visited upon the son. This is the main story arc of the whole saga and I find it fitting that the prequels choose to focus on that. There are little moments throughout the prequels that reveal Anakin to not be entirely at fault here. Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan as surrogate fathers have their arrogance put on display here and there, less so in AOTC, than in TPM. As Yoda describes it, it is "Qui-Gon's defiance" that finds itself extended in Obi-Wan and Anakin. Obi-Wan doesnt know whether to be a father figure or an older brother in AOTC, which I find pretty interesting, especially in how it plays out in the elevator when they are first introduced in AOTC. Obi-Wan is preachy but he is also michievous and competitive with Anakin when they describe their 'past' adventures. I love that sense of history between them in that elevator. It sounded very much like the serial "Star Wars" is....

I dont know, the more I think about it the more I like the films. On a gut level, I feel they are good and somehow cant escape that feeling. When people complain about them being shallow and lacking character development, I have to do this:??? and be honest with myself. When someone tries to argue that there is merit in the films and a certain amount of depth that makes them appealing, they get shat on for being pretentious and making them out to be more than they are. But isnt that more pretentious and snobby even to empirically designate the major consensus as the nature of things and therefore dictate what is 'shallow' and what is 'deep'?

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alas he is not a smarter man, which explains why he loves Star Wars prequels.

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Lame. That is a very lame thing to say. How many times do people have to be reminded that taste in movies doesnt need to be attacked to the point where it devolves into arguing a false dichotomy ad hominen.

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Sure it does! If Kevin Smith was a smarter man he'd make better movies. But alas he is not a smarter man, which explains why he loves Star Wars prequels.
This makes sense. Only an idiot could like the prequels. Smart people hate them.

Seriously, anti-fanboys like you around here are worse than fanboys. A fanboy make fail to see the flaws in a movie they love, but they rarely force their opinions on others.

An anti-fanboy, however, forces their opinion just like you did, suggesting only an idiot could like the prequels, only an idiot could actually have an opinion that differs from yours. Wow. Just wow.

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It's not just a coincidence that 90% of Kevin Smith's characters are comic-book loving Star Wars geeks.

you suck, by the way.

Thanks for not answering my question and the kind words...

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If Kevin Smith was a smarter man he'd make better movies.
Hmmm....so like Einstein would make the best movies ever?








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personally I don't think only an idiot could love the prequels. I think only fanatic fans who don't know a bad film when they see one because they are too defensive to criticism.

The first 3 were riddled with flaws - BUT they worked because they had spunk, they had character, a kind of fly-by-the-seat-of-your-pants kind of guts that I think people naturally respond to. Sure there was cheesy dialogue and bad acting acting but it all made it seem more genuine because of it.

The prequels take themselves too seriously and are loaded down with practically flawless CGI. Granted the fall of Vader is not suppose to be a cheerful upbeat story but I would have preferred something that was serious and yet not overly-serious to its importance at the same time.

I dismissed negative reviews of Episode I until I saw the film. After the film, I didn't immediately hate it but I was in a state of shock because I had hope for at least something mildly entertaining. The movie had flat uninteresting characters, pointless sub-plots that offered very little to the story (the journey thru the planet and all the big cgi fish and the overly long pod-race for example), an anakin who was too young to be interesting as a real tragic character, and lets not beat the dead horse of Jar Jar.

Had there never been a first 3 movies, I don't Episode I or II would have gathered enough interest or support for there ever to be Episodes III-VI.

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A couple of things....
1) Kevin Smith's review of EPIII can only be regarded as biased.


This is true. While it should probably go without saying, yes - my take on "Sith" is tainted by the fact that I like all the "Star Wars" films.
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He has gushed over EPI and EPII in the past and we know what happened with those films.

We do: those films were liked by some and not liked by others. This represented a development heretofore never recorded in over 100 years of cinema history.
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And aside from his zealot like devotion to the franchise, Kevin Smith has pretty poor taste in films.

I can't argue with this, as taste in film (and everything else in life) is pretty subjective. Yes, I've liked some pretty crappy flicks ("The Cutting Edge" is in my top 200). However, if this helps anyone get a better idea of the stuff I'm into, my top five favorite films of all time (in no particular order) are "Jaws", "JFK", "A Man for All Seasons", "Do the Right Thing", and "The Last Temptation of Christ". The next three would be "The Talented Mr. Ripley", "Citizen Kane", "Jerry Maguire". I'm still trying to figure out the last two to round off my top ten. Curiously, there are no "Star Wars" films in what is, thus far, the top eight.
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The man hasnt been able to create a decent film in years.

Also extremely subjective. That part about me being a man, I mean.

However, some (like me) could debate the poster's take on whether or not I've made a decent film "in years" or not. While the poster may not harbor any affection for my recent body of work, I can point him to a website full of people who'd disagree with him, or critics (both in print and on the web) who'd follow suit. In truth, it's probably more likely that the poster - a one Raziel, which I'm assuming is a 'net handle, because said poster feels the need to shield his secret identity from enemies who'd seek to do his loved ones harm - hasn't made a decent film (or any film, for that matter) in years, while I (like every filmmaker who's come before me and every filmmaker who'll come after me) have made films that have been considered to be **** by some and decent by others.
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His films combined have lost more money than they have grossed.

This is where the poster reveals him or herself (oh, **** it - it's gotta be a guy; no woman could be this petty and sad) to be full of ****, because this statement is patently untrue.

"Clerks"
Cost: $27,575, Theatrical Gross: $3.1 million, VHS (DVD figures not available): $6.169 mill

"Mallrats"
Cost: $6 million, Theatrical Gross: $2.1 million, DVD: Universal declines to issue figures, but Colleen Benn at Universal Home Video says, very coyly "Let's put it this way; we're doing a second version of the DVD. We only do that with titles that sell a lot. 'Fast Times', 'Animal House', 'Jaws', now 'Mallrats'."

"Chasing Amy:
Cost: $250,000, Theatrical Gross: $12 million, DVD: $12 million

"Dogma"
Cost: $10 million, Theatrical Gross: $30 million, DVD: Col/Tri declines to give financial figures, but Michael Stradford informs me that they shipped 800,000 of the standard edition of the DVD, and over 300,000 of the Special Edition, one year later.

"Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back"
Cost: $20 million, Theatrical Gross: $30 million, DVD: $38.5 million

"Jersey Girl"
Cost: $35 million, Theatrical Gross: $25 million, DVD: Financials not available, but Miramax Home Video head Shannon McIntosh informs me that we shipped over half a million units in the first week.

Even when you factor in P&A and marketing costs, it doesn't require (good) Will Hunting to do the math and see that the poster's statement that my films have "lost more money than they have grossed" is an ignorant crock of sh*t.
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Smith is also rumored to be be involved in the upcoming SW TV series project. DO you honestly think he would jeopardize his involvement with this by posting a bad or medoicre review of EPIII??? I dont think so.

Perhaps. Or before Fox Mulder here works himself into a frenzy with his conspiracy theory, might I suggest that if I, indeed, didn't like the flick, that I simply wouldn't have posted about seeing it in the first place.

See, in my world, if I don't like something, I try not to call attention to it. If I feel something sucks, I don't waste my time writing about it, unless I'm getting paid to state my opinion on the subject, or unless I'm asked about my take on it specifically (as with the "Magnolia" incident on my website, eons ago). The way-cool named Raziel holds forth on the subject of me and my flicks (even though, as he'd lead you to believe, he's not a fan) and as far as I know, nobody asked him his opinion, and he's not getting paid to offer it. This leads me to believe that Raziel - bad-*** name that, no-doubt, impresses chicks nothwithstanding - has a lot of free time on his hands; free time that would be better spent producing something rather than attempting to belittle those who do produce, or, say, chasing p*ssy. But no - here he sits, poo-pooing this film or that, as time marches on, bringing him ever closer to the grave and a legacy of invective-layered posts on a website.
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Smith is not a good candidate to use as a borometer for this film.

True enough - just as Raziel is not a good candidate for master speller (bator? yes; speller? No).
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I'd wait until an unbiased review is posted...

Wait for what, exactly, I find myself wondering?
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Or even better, watch the movie yourself and create your own opinion.

Finally, a glimmer of intelligence from our hero.
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Also, as pointed out by someone else, what the hell is up with all the "Darkness" crap??
"This is going to be the darkest SW yet!", The ones darker than the last one!"....What is this???
Who cares if it's darker or not. Does "darkness" guarantee a quality film??? NO

And yet, nobody maintained that "darkness" guaranteed a quality film. Raziel responds to an idea that nobody put forward, apparently falling into debate with himself.

Again, folks - I can't make anyone love me or the movies I've made (and will continue to make, long after the fire in the belly of the twelve year old Raziel subsides). However, I can correct misinformation like Raziel's loopy and uninformed take on the box office of the films I've made. Even though some would consider it a waste of my time, I've always felt that if I can't spare a few minutes to show up the jackasses in life, I'm not living to my fullest potential.

Yours,

Kevin Smith

For when Raziel's like "That wasn't Kevin Smith..."

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Which is odd, because I remember reading an article he wrote for July/August 2002 issue of Film Comment where he called watching the prequels like watching a train wreck.

You're remembering incorrectly, sir: in that piece (from the issue with Yoda on the cover), I wrote big praise for "Attack of the Clones" (surprise, surprise).

Said piece is also availble here, in the recently released Silent Bob Speaks (now in its third printing).

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Wow.

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You're remembering incorrectly, sir: in that piece (from the issue with Yoda on the cover), I wrote big praise for "Attack of the Clones" (surprise, surprise).

Said piece is also availble here, in the recently released Silent Bob Speaks (now in its third printing).

Welcome, Kevin.

I think you'll find the ratio of 'tards to average geeks here to be about 5:1, so enjoy the show!

By the way, I enjoyed Jersey Girl. One of Affleck's best performances (along with Phantoms, yo). And Liv Tyler was freakin' adorable.

- I.J.

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Actually, compared to most other sites, RT is one of the most tolerable you can find when it comes to a general forum. Though it suffers from it's fair share of spikes in stupidity, but generally most people here are pretty cool.

I also have a soft spot for your films, though my wife still hasn't forgiven me for dragging her to Jay And Silent Bob Strike Back.

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That was great. I almost wish I had been flamebaity enough to get my *** handed to me by Kevin Smith.

Almost.

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Actually, compared to most other sites, RT is one of the most tolerable you can find when it comes to a general forum. Though it suffers from it's fair share of spikes in stupidity, but generally most people here are pretty cool.

I also have a soft spot for your films, though my wife still hasn't forgiven me for dragging her to Jay And Silent Bob Strike Back.

You're right. There are some pretty great discussions around here. I guess it's just that the stupid threads seem to outnumber them by a good margin alot of the time. And I guess as we are getting into the "summer movie season" those "spikes in stupidity" are more frequent.

I still like it here (now somebody please fix the *jumping to the bottom of the thread* deal, already)...

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Yeah, that was good stuff. Well played Kevin.

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You're right. There are some pretty great discussions around here. I guess it's just that the stupid threads seem to outnumber them by a good margin alot of the time. And I guess as we are getting into the "summer movie season" those "spikes in stupidity" are more frequent.

I still like it here (now somebody please fix the *jumping to the bottom of the thread* deal, already)...

It was good for a while, then I come on today and BAM! Bottom of the thread!

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P.S. - How can a guy get a job with your outfit?

By randomly asking a guy on a message board who has a Kevin Smith username of course.

What a maroon.

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By randomly asking a guy on a message board who has a Kevin Smith username of course.

What a maroon.

You didn't click on the links to see it was Kevin then? Not that asking on the internet is going to work anyway

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You're remembering incorrectly, sir: in that piece (from the issue with Yoda on the cover), I wrote big praise for "Attack of the Clones" (surprise, surprise).

Said piece is also availble here, in the recently released Silent Bob Speaks (now in its third printing).

Ah Kevin, forget Star Wars.........lets get to the comic-book realm.

I think a DD sequel with pal Benjamin is needed at some point...............

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Ah Kevin, forget Star Wars.........lets get to the comic-book realm.

I think a DD sequel with pal Benjamin is needed at some point...............

Seriously Kevin whats up with Daredevil Target and Spider-Man? Are we ever going to see the next issues or are they just going to cut straight to TPB?

Are you still miffed at Bendis for wrapping things up with Bulls Eye?

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You didn't click on the links to see it was Kevin then?
Woah, I didn't. How cool is that.

Hey Kevin, give me a paying job.

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There is only thing that this movie can have that will make me completely happy after Episode 1: A graphic hour-long torture sequence of Jar Jar Binks. I want to have him beg for death screaming "MESA JUST WANTS TO DIE!! END MESA LIFE, MESA BEGS YOU!!". Or the following exchange of Dialogue:

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Jar Jar: Yousa scaawy!!

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Wow, intelligent well thought out responses Kevin. Can you get me a high paying job in hollyweird?

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Wow, intelligent well thought out responses Kevin. Can you get me a high paying job in hollyweird?
Hey, I asked first. But you can be my second assistant director, I guess. I'll have to take this up with 'Kev' first.

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Hey, I asked first. But you can be my second assistant director, I guess. I'll have to take this up with 'Kev' first.
Hey alright, it's a deal. Work is work.

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Hey alright, it's a deal. Work is work.
Still it's kind of weird.

It's not like any of us call Tom Cruise a midget on the forums and expect him to show up at our front door the next day with a tape measure.

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Hey, I asked first. But you can be my second assistant director, I guess. I'll have to take this up with 'Kev' first.

Can I be the dolly grip?

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Can I be the dolly grip?
Hey man, don't bother me with these trivialities. Barchetta makes the 'lesser' calls, me and the top dog are busy making the big decisions, those swear words don't write themselves into every KS film.

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Seriously Kevin whats up with Daredevil Target and Spider-Man? Are we ever going to see the next issues or are they just going to cut straight to TPB?

Scripts for issues 4 and 5 of "Spider-Man/Black Cat" have been turned in. I turn in issue 6 this week.

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God, no.

And not that anyone needed my say-so, but that was something I signed off on. My big mistake was bogarting Bullseye away from Bendis in the first place, back when he wanted to use him in an earlier DD arc.

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I DON'T CARE A<font face="Palatino Linotype">BOUT KEVIN SMITH!! KILL JAR JAR!!!
KILL JAR JAR NOW!!!

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I think a DD sequel with pal Benjamin is needed at some point...............

I think the closest you're gonna get (for awhile, at least, if not forever) is that cut scene on the "Elektra" dvd.

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Wow, intelligent well thought out responses Kevin. Can you get me a high paying job in hollyweird?

I can, sir. I offer you a position on my next flick as my personal fluffer.

So much for intelligent, well thought-out responses...

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Hey Kevin, thanks for posting with us. How's the Mewes doing these days? Are you excited for Batman Begins?

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Still it's kind of weird.
It's not like any of us call Tom Cruise a midget on the forums and expect him to show up at our front door the next day with a tape measure.


It would seem Tom is too busy bussing with Katie Holmes to dig out his tape measurer.

Me? I get my bussing out of the way early, so I can correct misinformation people write about me on the internet.

This proves, once and for all, that Tom Cruise is far smarter than me.

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Hey Kevin, thanks for posting with us. How's the Mewes doing these days?

Mewes is doing extremely well. On the upside, the dude just lapped the two year mark of total sobriety. On the downside, he recently acted opposite Paris Hilton in a flick that wasn't shot with infrared.

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Mewes is doing extremely well. On the upside, the dude just lapped the two year mark of total sobriety. On the downside, he recently acted opposite Paris Hilton in a flick that wasn't shot with infrared.
Mewes? Sober? Doesn't surprise me. Everytime I saw him in a special making of thing, he didn't seem anything like his famous character. It actually seemed reversed when Kevin and Jason are out of character.

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You should stay at this forum. Not specifically for your own benefit, but it's pretty cool for us.

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Anyone ever hear Smith's opinion's on other movies? A lot of the best films of last year he thought was crap.

More misinformation...

What films of last year, sir, did I ever say or write were crap?

For the curious (and to deflate the awesomely-named BigTuna's claims), here are the lists of my top ten for last year, as well as my honorable mentions.

1)Kill Bill, Vol. 2
2)The Incredibles
3)Shaun of the Dead
4)The Aviator
5)Million Dollar Baby
6)Friday Night Lights
7)Spartan
8)Eternal Sunshine
9)Man on Fire
10)Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban

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Jersey Girl (I don't care if I made it; I really liked this flick)
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Bourne Supremacy
Kinsey
Garden State
Dawn of the Dead
Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow
Spider-Man 2
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There are some flicks (like "Bad Education" and "Hotel Rwanda") that I still haven't seen. There are some flicks (like "Sideways") that didn't make either list because, well, I didn't get into them (though never called them "crap").

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How do you feel about Batman Begins?

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There are some flicks (like "Bad Education" and "Hotel Rwanda") that I still haven't seen.
Both awesome movies. Hotel Rwanda has a sort of a Dawn of the Dead(original) vibe to it.

And finally someone else here who agrees Kill Bill Vol. 2 is the best of the year

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How do you feel about Batman Begins?

Looking forward to it. Any Batman flick is better than no Batman flick.

With the exception, perhaps, of "Batman and Robin".

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Must resist, reading revenge, of the sith, reviews, only, leads, to the, dark side...

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You should stay at this forum. Not specifically for your own benefit, but it's pretty cool for us.

Says the guy who wrote this.

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This is great,Thanks Kevin for once again showing me the funniest thing of the day. lol. I don't think Kevin ever told anyone to take his review as a real critic review but more as an experience that he posted in his blog (it's funny as hell BTW). I think he would agree with this... Watch the movie and come up with your own opinion because in the end only you know what you like. To everyone who bitched about Kevin... You just got schooled by him and to all who like him...... Come with me over to the Viewaskew.com message boards.

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How were you able to see this movie so early.

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Says the guy who wrote this.
Hey, I was only questioning your 'hater' attack.

From that episode of Clerks, and your interview alongside Pegg, Wright for Empire magazine (or whatever magazine, I just read it online; funny stuff BTW, I used that bit about Darth sneaking in to fix C3PO with my buddies as if it were my own witty remark) it sounded as if you were a prequel dis-liker too.

I wouldn't mind if you use that post in one of your movies as the cause for some cross-country Jay and Silent Bob road trip, though.

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Oh, come on now, please, the frantic ***-kissing is getting even worse than the bitching.

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This is probally true. I'm guilty, sorry.

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This is probally true. I'm guilty, sorry.
Well, for the record, I didn't mean you. Some others, who shall remain nameless.

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how do we know it is Kevin Smith, sorry my computer is very slow and it will not let me go back to earlier pages to see any proof etc....

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Scripts for issues 4 and 5 of "Spider-Man/Black Cat" have been turned in. I turn in issue 6 this week.

"DD: Target" is up next.



God, no.

And not that anyone needed my say-so, but that was something I signed off on. My big mistake was bogarting Bullseye away from Bendis in the first place, back when he wanted to use him in an earlier DD arc.

All of this is great news.

I apreciate you taking the time to field questions that other irate fan boys have no doubt been bellowing at you for some time now.
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It would seem Tom is too busy bussing with Katie Holmes to dig out his tape measurer.

Me? I get my bussing out of the way early, so I can correct misinformation people write about me on the internet.

This proves, once and for all, that Tom Cruise is far smarter than me.
For a guy who's supposed to gay he's working awfully hard to keep us guessing.

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how do we know it is Kevin Smith, sorry my computer is very slow and it will not let me go back to earlier pages to see any proof etc....
He left this link (http://viewaskew.com/theboard/viewt...p=917112#917112)

Which I myself have already started using to convince chicks I meet on the internet that I'm a famous guy who likes the Tonight Show.

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Thanks for the post, although I'm still pissed off from Attack of the Clones..

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How were you able to see this movie so early.

Phil Benson, who was an associate producer on "Jersey Girl", was, for many years, a supervising sound editor at Skywalker (indeed, having worked with Peter Jackson on "The Frighteners", Phil was offered the key sound gig on the "Rings" trilogy, which he turned down to branch away from the sound ghetto by taking a production gig on... wait for it... "Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back"; he still maintains he doesn't miss the Oscar he would've won). I asked him to drop a line to prequel producer Rick McCallum to ask if I could see "Sith" as soon as humanly possible. Rick (a great guy I'd met during the "Dogma" mix up at Skywalker who let us use all sorts of "SW" sound effects for "Strike Back") got me into a screening for marketing execs on the Fox lot (described in greater detail here).

So, you see, something good came out of "Jersey Girl" after all.

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Thanks for answering my question and I hope I do like Episode 3, I would like atleast one of the prequels to be excellence.Anyways I really do respect your work and your the only person in Hollywood who gets the superhero genre.But I wanted to know one thing was John Peters really gonna add a giant spider,gay robot sidekick,killer polar bear,superman flies with the use of a suit, etc to the superman movie.

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was John Peterson really gonna add a giant spider to the superman movie.

Peters.

And, yeah - that was his plan. If he'd had his way, it would've been a giant Thanagarian Snare Beast (aka, a big spider) in the third act.

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I guess it's to be expected from a ex-hair dresser who doesn't know how to read..

Thanks for chatting with me I hope the boards shows you kindness.

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Hey Kevin (or Mr. Smith, it's online so I assume it's informal), just wanted to ask you a completely unrelated question, though I guess this post was side-tracked from Star Wars anyway.

Where'd you come up with Sweeney Todd for the musical in Jersey Girl? Did you just think of a depraved musical and that came to mind, or do you just like it, because I just thought it was very random and cool that you chose that. And do you hate Cats (I couldn't stand it, though there were a couple good songs)?

Also, they showed An Evening with Kevin Smith on Encore I believe, and you are officially one of the funniest people alive. Only other time I've laughed that hard at one person was watching Eddie Izzard (British stand-up comic).

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Wait! This is the real Kevin Smith, and not an alias?

Wow.

I had no idea celebrities posted on RT.

This place rules.

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I had no idea celebrities posted on RT.

This place rules.

Allegedly Roger Ebert pops in to post. Is he a celebrity?

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Hey Kev, I didn't know you came here too. Cool.

I'd like to take this opportunity to remind you all that the "Surviving Christmas" 2-disc special edition DVD is coming out next month. They're still weighing the possibility of a director's unrated cut. I hope they release it, because it fixes everything.

Also, I'm sleeping with Jennifer Garner. And you're not.

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Also, I'm sleeping with Jennifer Garner. And you're not.

shows what you know.

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More misinformation...

What films of last year, sir, did I ever say or write were crap?

For the curious (and to deflate the awesomely-named BigTuna's claims), here are the lists of my top ten for last year, as well as my honorable mentions.

1)Kill Bill, Vol. 2
2)The Incredibles
3)Shaun of the Dead
4)The Aviator
5)Million Dollar Baby
6)Friday Night Lights
7)Spartan
8)Eternal Sunshine
9)Man on Fire
10)Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban

Honorable Mentions

Super Size Me
Bush¹s Brain
Jersey Girl (I don't care if I made it; I really liked this flick)
Hellboy
I, Robot
Bourne Supremacy
Kinsey
Garden State
Dawn of the Dead
Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow
Spider-Man 2
Ray

There are some flicks (like "Bad Education" and "Hotel Rwanda") that I still haven't seen. There are some flicks (like "Sideways") that didn't make either list because, well, I didn't get into them (though never called them "crap").

Did you see Collateral?

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This makes sense. Only an idiot could like the prequels. Smart people hate them.
Duh!
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Seriously
I remind you were talking about the Star Wars Prequels.
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anti-fanboys like you around here are worse than fanboys. A fanboy make fail to see the flaws in a movie they love, but they rarely force their opinions on others.

An anti-fanboy, however, forces their opinion just like you did, suggesting only an idiot could like the prequels, only an idiot could actually have an opinion that differs from yours. Wow. Just wow.

There's a lot of films out there that I don't like, but many consider to be masterpieces.

But this is not one of those films. We're talking about the Star Wars Prequels!!!

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Lame. That is a very lame thing to say. How many times do people have to be reminded that taste in movies doesnt need to be attacked to the point where it devolves into arguing a false dichotomy ad hominen.
Yes I agree with you.

But may I remind you were talking about Kevin Smith and the Star Wars Prequels!

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Did you see Collateral?

I did.

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I think I'm going to not insult celebrities on RT anymore since they apparantly show up.



..........I still hate Paris Hilton.

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Where'd you come up with Sweeney Todd for the musical in Jersey Girl? Did you just think of a depraved musical and that came to mind, or do you just like it, because I just thought it was very random and cool that you chose that.

I've been a fan of Sondheim's "Sweeney Todd" since I was nine. To me, it's the most literary musical ever made. Those lyrics are amazing.
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I've never seen "Cats". Only saw the commercial for it millions of times, having grown up on the other side of the river from the home of "Cats".

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Hey Kev, I didn't know you came here too. Cool.

**** your "Cool." I told you casting your girlfriend in our flick was a bad idea, mother****er.

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Allegedly Roger Ebert pops in to post. Is he a celebrity?
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I think I'm going to not insult celebrities on RT anymore since they apparantly show up.

Keep casting your aspersions on your betters, sir - you have nothing to be afraid of. Real celebrities never frequent message boards on the internet; that activity's reserved for merely quasi-celebrities with spotty track records and an outdated sense of fair play.

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Keep casting your aspersions on your betters, sir - you have nothing to be afraid of. Real celebrities never frequent message boards on the internet; that activity's reserved for merely quasi-celebrities with spotty track records and an outdated sense of fair play.
So ripping on any of the a<i>ss</i>hats on The Real World is out too ?

Just checking my boundries.

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Hey Kevin! I actually havent seen any of your movies, shame on me I know, which one do you recommend me to start with?

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I like how we all become boy scouts when a celebrity is in our midst.

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I like how we all become boy scouts when a celebrity is in our midst.
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And yet he's done nothing to deserve a cordial reception.
I'm not pissing him off and getting jay and Silent Bob on my a<i>ss.

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I'm not pissing him off and getting jay and Silent Bob on my a<i>ss.
What's he going to do, mime you to death?

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Hey Kevin! I actually havent seen any of your movies, shame on me I know, which one do you recommend me to start with?

Start with my first flick: "Citizen Kane". Yes, it's black and white, but it's worth your time.

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Hey Kev, you're an inspiration to us movie director wanna-bes. I hope the film I'm currently directing achieves half the success Clerks did. The 10th anniversary special you did for the IFC was very informative and inspirational. My movie's not costing me 297 thousand, but it sure is cutting deep into my DVD buying capabilities if you know what I mean. I just hope we can make enough on the movie to pay off my student loans!

Check my movie out if you have a few minutes. Anything nice you say about the movie will be put on the posters!

P.S. to keep this thread a little on topic, my roomate says that Tom Stoppard helped on the dialogue for ROTS. Anyone else hear this or can confirm it?

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And where the hell is Matt Damon ? I thought Ben Affleck had a mind meld with him that meant they needed to be within 5 miles of each other at all times.
Damon hit the bricks when he saw Gigli.

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P.S. to keep this thread a little on topic, my roomate says that Tom Stoppard helped on the dialogue for ROTS. Anyone else hear this or can confirm it?
Actually Chris Neil did.

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And yet he's done nothing to deserve a cordial reception.

Have I not been cordial to all here except those who'd post blatant untruths? And even to those few I haven't been particularly offensive or harsh.

If you feel my comportment on these last few pages doesn't merit cordiality in return, then I think your standards may be too high.

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Mr. Smith, you are a fantastic director. Have you ever been "starstruck" when you've met a certain celebrity?

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We've got all the sterotypes here. The Star Wars fan, The kid with the anime avatar and the adoring fans.

We just need a couple of haters with bad spelling and we've got a mini Internet collection here.

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If you feel my comportment on these last few pages doesn't merit cordiality in return, then I think your standards may be too high.
Well I did like Chasing Amy. I take it all back.

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Hey Kevin, thanks for popping online here.

Dig the flicks and all, but why are you going back to the Clerks well? Despite what most people thought, I was really impressed with Jersey Girl (Tyler f**king nailed that movie), and I'd like to see you try less in-jokey type stuff.

I may be the only person on the planet who thinks that, though.

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Hey Kevin, thanks for popping online here.

Dig the flicks and all, but why are you going back to the Clerks well? Despite what most people thought, I was really impressed with Jersey Girl (Tyler f**king nailed that movie), and I'd like to see you try less in-jokey type stuff.

I may be the only person on the planet who thinks that, though.

I agree completely. I found Jersey girl to be very touching without being overly sweet and mushy, which is definitely something that is difficult to do.

I am, however, extremely excited about the next Clerks movie.

Seriously, film the phone book. I'd watch. Twice.

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I agree completely. I found Jersey girl to be very touching without being overly sweet and mushy, which is definitely something that is difficult to do.

I am, however, extremely excited about the next Clerks movie.

Seriously, film the phone book. I'd watch. Twice.

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Jersey Girl was fantastic. I sobbed my heart out watching it. As for filming the phone book, I'd watch it too.

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I'm available.

But my mom won't let me stay out past midnight.

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I'm pretty sure Kevin has no idea how to respond to the insane amount of love getting tossed around here.

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I'm overjoyed, and pleasently surprised at this point in time. I caught the review over at IMDB (an always accurate barometer, I know) - and, if anything, it just gave me a good feeling knowing someone who knew what they were talking about gave an enthusiastic review.

I don't know if I could ever give an accurate review myself, I admit I may be slightly biased (*cough* username *cough*). All I know is, I've got my tickets to the midnight show and the anticipation is ever growing.


Thanks for taking time out to show up on RT - this has been a good night, indeed.

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Maybe I should have made the Jersey Girl comment before I made a pass at him.

Sorry.

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Apparently by retreating to his Fortress of Swalbachitude.

Well, you know, he wasn't even supposed to be here today. (Fanboy reference... done )


I wouldn't mind it one bit if he decided to stay, though.

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Go out and buy the Clerks X DVD, not only is it a great movie but it has "The Snowball Effect" one of the best docs i have ever seen, my favorite DVD of 2004.

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**** your "Cool." I told you casting your girlfriend in our flick was a bad idea, mother****er.
Listen Kev, you can continue to blame the failure of Jersey Girl on She Whose Name Shall Not Be Spoken, but until you start admitting to yourself your true feelings about me, you're going to continue to act out (b<i>i</i>tching on random message boards being one symptom).

And dude, seriously. I've told you how I feel about profanity.

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Hey Kevin,

Is Lucas' directorial technique in this film identical to that in the previous two, or does he seem to display more... inspiration? Not to say that his direction was previously uninspired, but is there a sense that he's putting his all into this film moreso than the previous prequels, and if so, what gave you this impression?

In a similar vein, do you think that he may have gone too far with this film, in that the tone will be so radically different from the OT that his proposed vision of the sextuplet being viewed in order of episode numbers in the future will ultimately undermine the later episodes? Seriously, there seems to be more action in this one film than the last three episodes combined.

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If you think this is really Kevin Smith, why are you still alive. "Hope, it is the quintessential human delusion, simultaneously the source of your greatest strength and your greatest weakness."


BTW...Jersey Girl is the gayest shiitebomb in the history of planet earth. Don't diss Magnolia and then make its retarded clone.

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If you think this is really Kevin Smith, why are you still alive. "Hope, it is the quintessential human delusion, simultaneously the source of your greatest strength and your greatest weakness."
Wow, quoting nuggets of wisdom from The Matrix. You must feel so smart.

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If you think this is really Kevin Smith, why are you still alive. "Hope, it is the quintessential human delusion, simultaneously the source of your greatest strength and your greatest weakness."


BTW...Jersey Girl is the gayest shiitebomb in the history of planet earth. Don't diss Magnolia and then make its retarded clone.


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Wow, quoting nuggets of wisdom from The Matrix. You must feel so smart.
Oh no. Just seeing people flock to this troll is making me feel smart. "It must be Kevin Smith because his moniker says so!"

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Anger makes dull men witty, but it keeps them poor.

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Believe half of what you see and none of what you hear.

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Of course the people don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. The people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger

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Oh no. Just seeing people flock to this troll is making me feel smart. "It must be Kevin Smith because his moniker says so!"
The voice of intelligence ... is drowned out by the roar of fear. It is ignored by the voice of desire. It is contradicted by the voice of shame. It is biased by hate and extinguished by anger. Most of all it is silenced by ignorance.

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No hard feelings HJ - See you on the Lost side.

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So, how does everyone know that was Kevin Smith?

Sorry. I'm not familiar with The View Askewniverse.

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So, how does everyone know that was Kevin Smith?

Sorry. I'm not familiar with The View Askewniverse.

Because the user name was KevinSmith. D'uh.

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So, how does everyone know that was Kevin Smith?

Sorry. I'm not familiar with The View Askewniverse.

They need to believe it. The necessity outweighs everything.

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Apparently by retreating to his Fortress of Swalbachitude.

If only.

No - I was writing another glowing "Sith" piece - this one for Rolling Stone, on the subject of Vader.

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KEVIN!!!!! OH MY GOD, IT'S REALLY YOU!

Thanks for unleashing that loser-sack Ben Affleck on us. You blow harder than an unemployed, homeless trannie.

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Maybe I should have made the Jersey Girl comment before I made a pass at him.

Trust me, you're glad I'm married. I'm hung like an infant (and not the proverbial infant's arm holding an apple), and I spend waaaay too much time on the internet.

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Trust me, you're glad I'm married. I'm hung like an infant (and not the proverbial infant's arm holding an apple), and I spend waaaay too much time on the internet.
Yeah. You found this site.

Leave now before you end up like me.

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I wouldn't mind it one bit if he decided to stay, though.

Can't stay here, sir. I've already got a home on the web.

But it's a nice place to visit.

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Can't stay here, sir. I've already got a home on the web.

But it's a nice place to visit.


Clearly, you don't visit often.

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Go out and buy the Clerks X DVD, not only is it a great movie but it has "The Snowball Effect" one of the best docs i have ever seen, my favorite DVD of 2004.

Incredibly nice of you to pimp the product, sir. Saves me from having to do it myself.

Though, I'll add only that there's a place they can buy said dvd.

You pimp, I'll whore.

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If only.

No - I was writing another glowing "Sith" piece - this one for Rolling Stone, on the subject of Vader.

Do you think those who didn't like the prequels with have a change of heart with Sith? Also, where would you rank it among Star Wars films?

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Hmmm. KevinSmith and JesusChrist posting in the same thread.


Never thought I'd live to see this day. Wait a second....is that locusts I hear?

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teeareess: "I don't think it's mentioned nearly enough how awesome this break-free season is."

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Is Lucas' directorial technique in this film identical to that in the previous two, or does he seem to display more... inspiration? Not to say that his direction was previously uninspired, but is there a sense that he's putting his all into this film moreso than the previous prequels, and if so, what gave you this impression?

I don't know. Interesting question, though.

I can say this: while watching the flick, I got the overwhelming impression that, post-"Clones", he read a great deal of 'net feedback.
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In a similar vein, do you think that he may have gone too far with this film, in that the tone will be so radically different from the OT that his proposed vision of the sextuplet being viewed in order of episode numbers in the future will ultimately undermine the later episodes?

No. While it's darker than "Empire", it's no more out of place in the saga than "Empire". If you can roll with "Empire" (especially after the happy-happy, joy-joy ending of "Star Wars"), you'll be able to roll with "Sith".

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Thanks for unleashing that loser-sack Ben Affleck on us.

C'mon - he was da bomb in... well, y'know.
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You blow harder than an unemployed, homeless trannie.

And who would know what that's like if not you, sir? They obviously weren't kidding around these parts when they told me "Go easy on that Cult Icon fella; he's really a big softie. Sure, he'll **** a He-She in the mouth raw, but his softer side emerges when, spent, he shuffles down to his-her tuck and returns the favor."
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Not here for long. Just visiting.

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While it certainly sounds promising (I was particularly happy about the bit about Hayden being better, dear God he annoyed me in AOTC), I'm still afraid to get my hopes up too much.

Of course, I have no idea when I'm actually going to get to see it. Movies tend to take a couple months to get here, and by the time it does, I'll probably be gone back to Canada. Then, when I get back to Canada, since the town I live in has a grand total of three cinema screens and movies don't stay there very long, it'll probably be gone.

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C'mon - he was da bomb in... well, y'know.



And who would know what that's like if not you, sir? They obviously weren't kidding around these parts when they told me "Go easy on that Cult Icon fella; he's really a big softie. Sure, he'll **** a He-She in the mouth raw, but his softer side emerges when, spent, he shuffles down to his-her tuck and returns the favor."



Not here for long. Just visiting.

I'm a girl. Nice comebacks, though. ZING!

Not.

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Trust me, you're glad I'm married. I'm hung like an infant (and not the proverbial infant's arm holding an apple), and I spend waaaay too much time on the internet.
Ummm...take a look at her post count. If you think she's not going to love a guy who spends way too much time on the Internet, I think you'd be wrong.

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Hey Kevin. I'm a fellow citizen of Monmouth County (In fact, my mailing address is Red Bank even if I don't exactly live there) and I was wondering when you were going to film your next movie. I'm assuming it will be filmed in NJ. Although I am more of a film journalist, I am very much interested in production and I would love to visit a set, even if it was just to walk by.

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Yeah. You found this site.

Jeff Healey could've found this site. Just never knew there were message boards involved.
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Leave now before you end up like me.

You have little to fear in the way of me catching up to your impressive post-count, sir or madam. I'm always needed elsewhere.

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So, giver to the world of Clerks, how do you predict Sith will do at the box office?

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Jeff Healey could've found this site. Just never knew there were message boards involved.



You have little to fear in the way of me catching up to your impressive post-count, sir or madam. I'm always needed elsewhere.

Good. Good. I have no life and I take out my anger at society here.

In case you're really Kevin Smith, I have to say thank you for ruining my sex life. I get called "Lunchbox," "Bob," and "Mr. Smith," because of you.

Of course, I'm kidding.

Or am I?

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I'm a girl.

So odd - you come off like the standard angry young internet male.
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Nice comebacks, though. ZING!
Not.

Wit(lessness) borrowed from "Wayne's World" instead of "Austin Powers". How very retro.

Still, your gender doesn't preclude you from f**king a trannie raw in the mouth, nor from topping her/him off. So the assessment (not mine, mind you - just the stuff they told me about you when I got here) still stands.

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So odd - you come off like the standard angry young internet male.



Wit(lessness) borrowed from "Wayne's World" instead of "Austin Powers". How very retro.

Still, your gender doesn't preclude you from f**king a trannie raw in the mouth, nor from topping her/him off. So the assessment (not mine, mind you - just the stuff they told me about you when I got here) still stands.

Oooh, feisty! I just didn't want to join the legions of as</font>s-kissers here. Is that so wrong? You can't take a little ribbing? Aaaw.

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So, giver to the world of Clerks, how do you predict Sith will do at the box office?

Better than "Clones", if there's any justice. As to an exact figure, I couldn't guess.

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this thread is shamefully off topic now.

please lock it.


btw....what's a sith?

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this thread is shamefully off topic now.

please lock it.


btw....what's a sith?

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Kevin. Kev. Kev-o. Mr. Smith. Smithey. Hey man, how ya doin'? I like you. I do. Really.

I mean, I really LIKE YOU. Your films make me happy. Especially Jersey Girl. I love how every character sounds like you. Granted, it takes away any dimensions (HAHAHAHA!) they would've otherwise had, but we at least know: This Is a Kevin Smith Film. We need to know that. I feel it's important to know the director you are interacting with when you've dropped $8.25 to viddy their little flick. And I do mean little. Not little in regards to budget, but little in regards to. . . . significance. Meaning. But, I'm getting off-topic. I like you and I want to know your film is YOUR film. Not that other guy's. It isn't enough anymore to know who made what film just by reading the opening (and end) credits. Nor is it enough just to look at the movie poster.

I want every line that comes out of every character's mouth to scream, "This is me! Kevin Smith! I am at home, typing these words on a computer, contemplating how best to inspire my actor's to repeat them the exact way I hear them in my head!" It's a delicious trait you have and I enjoy it immensely. You inspire me. You're my hero. To know that you are richer than I will ever be, for shi</font><font face="Courier New">t</font><font face="Book Antiqua">ting on celluloid, editing said feces, and then proceeding to project 'poo poo' on-screen world-wide is. . . . . a wonderful thing. To know I spend so much time on character and themes when I sit to write, when nothing I write will ever be seen by anyone outside of my immediate family, while you get to go on making the D-est of D-grade movies is. . . . . comforting. You, my friend (and I really do mean friend) are the American dream.

I suppose what I respect most about you is that you show very little appreciation for art itself. Art is subjective, of course; what I see as crap (your filmography, Chasing Amy notwithstanding) someone else might see as gold. This is true. This is right. You seem to either not understand this concept or feel your opinion somehow holds more weight because you are the creator of the art in question. Hehehe. . . your brilliance astounds. Over and over again. I want to hug you - bear hug of course (what the fu</font><font face="Courier New">c</font><font face="Book Antiqua">k else can I do?). Surely anyone who understands and has studied art must realize that it's all in the eyes of the beholder. Art doesn't exist outside of the viewer/listener, nor is it self-contained. It's all about the audience, my man. Once you're done creating. . . heh, you're done. Why then do you come on the internet to head-butt with viewers whose opinion differs from your own? Why create works only for yourself if you are going to share your work with the world? You're rich enough to make small films for yourself, why not do it? But, alas, this is where you are brilliant.

You're dumb, but you're clever enough to fool us into thinking you have a brain. On this, I salute you.You have no idea how embarassing it looks for an artist to use the internet (why not call us, big guy?) in order to try and gain some 'artistic' credibilty through his celebrity presence. Yet you do it anyway. Where's Woody? . . . . . . oh, here he is! :


"Clever!"

I love ya, Kev. You do what you shouldn't while you know you shouldn't. You're a true martyr. And my favoritest person in the whole wide world. Thanks for taking time out to talk with us.

I expect a witty rebuttel. You owe cinema that.

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In Kevin Smith's review of Episode III: "This is the 'Star Wars' prequel the haters have been bitching for since 'Menace' came out, and if they don't cop to that when they finally see it, they're lying."
Smithey registers on RT and says: "What's weird to me, however, is how out-of-sorts some folks got about me writing about liking the flick - as if I had no right to do so, and no simple credibility afforded any other movie fan to express my enjoyment of a film I saw."
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Yeah, so, Kevin, my honest real question to you is what the hell is going on with that Green Hornet project with Jake Gyllenhaal? Has that been trashed?

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Kevin. Kev. Kev-o. Mr. Smith. Smithey. Hey man, how ya doin'? I like you. I do. Really.

I love ya, Kev. You do what you shouldn't while you know you shouldn't. You're a true martyr. And my favoritest person in the whole wide world. Thanks for taking time out to talk with us.

I expect a witty rebuttel. You owe cinema that.

Wow, and I was afraid I sounded too much like a sycophant.

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Oooh, feisty! I just didn't want to join the legions of as</font>s-kissers here. Is that so wrong?

And in your haste to not join one legion, you fell in with the other half. At least the kindly posters are somewhat original and rare for the internet. Now you sound like... well, all the other unhappy people.

Nevertheless, I'm comforted to see that, even here, water will still find its level.
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You can't take a little ribbing? Aaaw.

I believe the "You can't take a little ribbing? Aaaw..." defense is the quick and easy refuge of the person who, themselves, can't take a little ribbing. I say this, dear madam, because I was not the one who so desperately wanted to duck a mild parry of cyber roasting by attempting to convince a stranger that she was of the distaff gender - a practice I'm sure you're accustomed to reflexively engaging in off the web as well.

But, for what it's worth, I can take a lot of ribbing. I did, after all, make "Jersey Girl".

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Wow, and I was afraid I sounded too much like a sycophant.
I'm the biggest of them all, dear bubba. But now we know we have something in common. That means I love you. Friends?

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Smithey registers on RT and says: "What's weird to me, however, is how out-of-sorts some folks got about me writing about liking the flick - as if I had no right to do so, and no simple credibility afforded any other movie fan to express my enjoyment of a film I saw."
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this thread is shamefully off topic now.

please lock it.


btw....what's a sith?

Alright Bartfett, why hasn't this been answered?

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I expect a witty rebuttel. You owe cinema that.

Excuse me? I'm sorry, I missed what you said while I was counting my blessings.

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Yeah, so, Kevin, my honest real question to you is what the hell is going on with that Green Hornet project with Jake Gyllenhaal? Has that been trashed?

It's alive and well, with the script going out to other directors. I bowed out a while back.

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Alright Bartfett, why hasn't this been answered?
Because the question is below me. But since I'm feeling nice, the Sith are the opposite of the Jedi. They are people dedicated to the Dark Side of the force, and exploiting it to rule the universe.

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And in your haste to not join one legion, you fell in with the other half. At least the kindly posters are somewhat original and rare for the internet. Now you sound like... well, all the other unhappy people.

Nevertheless, I'm comforted to see that, even here, water will still find its level.

Oh, and admit it. You can't take it! You can dish it out, but you just cannot take it. I'm not unhappy at all. I was just feeling spunky. It looks like a really hurt your feelings. Why not turn this experience into a cynical little movie that's exactly the same as every other one you make? I'm all for it!
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I believe the "You can't take a little ribbing? Aaaw..." defense is the quick and easy refuge of the person who, themselves, can't take a little ribbing. I say this, dear madam, because I was not the one who so desperately wanted to duck a mild parry of cyber roasting by attempting to convince a stranger that she was of the distaff gender - a practice I'm sure you're accustomed to reflexively engaging in off the web as well.

But, for what it's worth, I can take a lot of ribbing. I did, after all, make "Jersey Girl".

Oh, you poor guy. I mean, I barely said anything offensive! You make me feel that feeling...you know, like when you see a little dog stranded in the rain. He snaps and barks at everone who passes him, unless they offer food.

I haven't slept in 29 hours, by the way. I hope you're the real deal because this is a total blast! Your posts are complete gems, Kevin. I can see why they call you a master of dialogue. It's gold! Every sentence, GOLD!

Keep up the good work, don't get down on yourself because of a movie forum. Silly.

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I think you're hot, Cult.

Wanna make out?

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Dunno if this was mentioned--didn't feel like reading six pages--a bunch of us (and by us, I mean guys/gals from AxisArchives) are heading down to Comic-Con this summer. Guess we'll see you there.
Don't be offended if we don't stand in your six-hour long line for a John Hancock.

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I think you're hot, Cult.

Wanna make out?

I think I'll be busy with my Kevin Smith/ Silent Bob cardboard cutouts tonight. Raincheck?

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Originally Posted by Originally Posted by Originally Posted by - whoa, I was a Kevin Smith movie for a second

Excuse me? I'm sorry, I missed what you said while I was counting my blessings.
This was exactly the response I envisioned. No real insight, no rebuttel to the bulk of my post - just an insult. And an insult that fundamentally doesn't work.

While you - Kevin Smith - have more money than I will ever dream of, I am not Kevin Smith. So automatically, you are far more hated than I will ever be.

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Smithey registers on RT and says: "What's weird to me, however, is how out-of-sorts some folks got about me writing about liking the flick - as if I had no right to do so, and no simple credibility afforded any other movie fan to express my enjoyment of a film I saw."
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Oh, and admit it. You can't take it!

Madam, you're no Kubrick's Double. And if that massive chunk of overcompensation didn't get me down, what hope has your post?
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You can dish it out, but you just cannot take it. I'm not unhappy at all. I was just feeling spunky. It looks like a really hurt your feelings.

If that's how it looks, then your view is as challenged as you yourself seem to be.
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Why not turn this experience into a cynical little movie that's exactly the same as every other one you make? I'm all for it!

Because I've already written a script called "Retarded Lonely Girl on the Internet Hurls Her Voice into the Void Nightly, Praying for Understanding". We're shooting it after "Clerks 2".
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Oh, you poor guy. I mean, I barely said anything offensive!

For once we're in complete agreement.
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You make me feel that feeling...you know, like when you see a little dog stranded in the rain. He snaps and barks at everone who passes him, unless they offer food.

I don't know that particular feeling, but I know the one in which the troll begs for feeding. I usually give 'em three bites at the apple before moving on. Chew thoroughly now, 'cause that's all you're gonna get.
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I haven't slept in 29 hours, by the way.

Ah - that would explain your dull wit.

Well, wait - no it wouldn't. No excuses young lady-boy.
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I hope you're the real deal because this is a total blast! Your posts are complete gems, Kevin. I can see why they call you a master of dialogue. It's gold! Every sentence, GOLD!

Did you suddenly catch a nap in there? Because now you're finally making sense to me.
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Keep up the good work, don't get down on yourself because of a movie forum. Silly.

That's the difference between you and I, madam: I have actual work to keep up, good (in your estimation) or not. You don't get down on yourself because you have only the movie forum to keep you warm at night.

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This was exactly the response I envisioned. No real insight, no rebuttel to the bulk of my post - just an insult. And an insult that fundamentally doesn't work.

So weird - that's what I was thinking after skimming your post, sir. Great minds think alike.
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While you - Kevin Smith - have more money than I will ever dream of, I am not Kevin Smith. So automatically, you are far more hated than I will ever be.

And far more loved.

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You don't get down on yourself because you have only the movie forum to keep you warm at night.

Don't worry, Mr. Smith. She also has an extensive collection of Star Wars memorabilia.

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What did you think of Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy, Kev?

Can I call you Kev? Or how about Vin?

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Dunno if this was mentioned--didn't feel like reading six pages--a bunch of us (and by us, I mean guys/gals from AxisArchives) are heading down to Comic-Con this summer. Guess we'll see you there.
Don't be offended if we don't stand in your six-hour long line for a John Hancock.


For the record, those long lines are never really for the signatures; they're for the panel.

Not saying that justifies the wait. Just saying, is all.

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I have to say I really enjoyed watching someone get their *** handed to them.

Mildly amusing is watching people go from being bravely blunt dishing from anonimity to gushy sycophants.

My problem with the review is I didn't hear what I needed to hear to get me excited.

Great visuals have always been a given in the Star Wars epic.
The shortcoming...particularly with clones was the lead characters actually became less interesting than they were in the first film. Amidala at least had those crazy costumes to look at but she had a strength of character. Padme is just an uninteresting little girl. Anakin is plagued with a monk's awkwardness about women, and teen anger about being pushed around by the grups. This isn't the ideal stuff you build a master of evil and one of the most celebrated bad guys in the galaxy out of. Especially coming out of a film where he began as a precocious toe headed boy. Young Obi Wan seems flat to me as to the rest of the Jedi council who are basically beaurocrats who seem paralyzed because always with the dark side it is cloudy. Unlike previous films, including Phantom Menace, I felt I had nothing to talk about at the end of Clones regarding fun hints of what was going to happen next.

What I haven't seen in the review or in the recent trailers is that there is a return to seeing characters that are fun to watch or even like. Do the mucky politics of Clones lay the groundwork for a story that pays off.
It sounds like Palpatine is the emotional center of this film which is wonderful there is someone to look forward to. On the other hand I though the emotional center of the film was the lead characters from the first two films. As someone put very well here, great light sabre battles, dogfights and treachery is fantastic if you are emotionally invested in the characters. But dull and lifeless if you could care less about the people involved. Matrix Revolutions and the people of Zion a classic case of spectacular fireworks and no emotional involvement. Just sound and fury.

Will it change the minds of those who found little or nothing stimulating about Anakin, Padme, Obi Wan, C3PO & Artoo, Mace Windu, and the other characters we were supposed to be investing in during the last picture?
I read about a lot of great scenes. But nothing about interesting characters other than Palpatine.

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What did you think of Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy, Kev?

Haven't seen the flick yet. Loved the books, though.

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This thread is more entertaining than Mallrats.

Take that as you will.

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This thread is more entertaining than Mallrats.

Take that as you will.

Isn't everything more entertaining than Mallrats? With the possible exception of Sweet November.

I don't think even Kevin Smith could argue that.

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Madam, you're no Kubrick's Double. And if that massive chunk of overcompensation didn't get me down, what hope has your post?



If that's how it looks, then your view is as challenged as you yourself seem to be.



Because I've already written a script called "Retarded Lonely Girl on the Internet Hurls Her Voice into the Void Nightly, Praying for Understanding". We're shooting it after "Clerks 2".



For once we're in complete agreement.



I don't know that particular feeling, but I know the one in which the troll begs for feeding. I usually give 'em three bites at the apple before moving on. Chew thoroughly now, 'cause that's all you're gonna get.



Ah - that would explain your dull wit.

Well, wait - no it wouldn't. No excuses young lady-boy.



Did you suddenly catch a nap in there? Because now you're finally making sense to me.



That's the difference between you and I, madam: I have actual work to keep up, good (in your estimation) or not. You don't get down on yourself because you have only the movie forum to keep you warm at night.

You're so sad, I can't even bring myself to reply. The tears are drenching my keyboard. At this point I hope you aren't the real Kevin Smith, because this is just beyond belief. I'm...SPEECHLESS! (And not because you're clever, or quick, because face it, you're not. It took you about 20 minutes just to come up with this.) You're a sad, sad man. I know you think you've done well in the world, but no one will remember you in fifteen years. Even if you're still spewing crap into the world (aka your movies, if you didn't catch that, retard).

{cue predictable insult about me being a lonely girl}

Oh, good one! I feel sorry for your wife. Oh yes, I went there! This started out harmlessly enough, but you've proven you're nothing but a pig who can't respond to things gracefully. I tried, but you've brought out the worst in me. You're nothing but a sad-sack who happened to go to film school. You're "films" are worthless pieces of cow dung filled to the brim with horrible dialogue and "edgy" curse words.

Now go to bed, or you'll just be even more cranky in the morning, little guy.

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And far more loved.
It's hard to love someone you don't know isn't it? It's even harder to hate them.

So, how does it feel to be hated by many? Have you formed a God complex by being loved by even more?
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Guess so. And there's only one great mind here.

He didn't direct Jersey Girl.

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Isn't everything more entertaining than Mallrats? With the possible exception of Sweet November.

I don't think even Kevin Smith could argue that.

I dunno. I mean, ninety minutes of nipple-eating gypsies would've entertained me more than The Passion of the Christ.

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My problem with the review is I didn't hear what I needed to hear to get me excited.

For the record, I didn't write about "Sith" to persuade people to check the flick out (because, let's not kid ourselves: most of the people on the web don't need to be sold on it; they'll be seeing it regardless, whether theatrically or on DVD). That "review" was just a small portion of my daily online diary. But it got linked all over the 'net, and our website got hit so hard from all the traffic, that the "Sith" text was put onto its own page, so our message boards could function somewhat normally again.

What's weird to me, however, is how out-of-sorts some folks got about me writing about liking the flick - as if I had no right to do so, and no simple credibility afforded any other movie fan to express my enjoyment of a film I saw. I mean, I've had a website for a decade now, and I've spent a lot of time on the 'net, but even I was stunned by the rancor and anonymous hostility toward what was, in essence, me writing "Hey, I saw a movie I really dug."

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I wonder how many PMs Kevin is getting bombarded with right now?

Not enough methinks.

*PMs*

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What's weird to me, however, is how out-of-sorts some folks got about me writing about liking the flick - as if I had no right to do so, and no simple credibility afforded any other movie fan to express my enjoyment of a film I saw. I mean, I've had a website for a decade now, and I've spent a lot of time on the 'net, but even I was stunned by the rancor and anonymous hostility toward what was, in essence, me writing "Hey, I saw a movie I really dug."
Or, it could be the condescending tone you had towards 'haters' of the prequels.

*shrug*

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I dunno. I mean, ninety minutes of nipple-eating gypsies would've entertained me more than The Passion of the Christ.
Watching Jesus get torn into confetti wasn't nearly as painful as trying to watch Keanu Reeves act in Sweet November.

Nope.

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this thread has become quite telling. False internet personalities giving way to their real ones.
It's curious to see, in a car wreck/ant farm/glass house kinda way.....

some of you are holding up better than others.

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this thread has become quite telling. False internet personalities giving way to their real ones.
It's curious to see, in a car wreck/ant farm/glass house kinda way.....


You mean how most people have lightened up their tone in the midst of someone who's normally a safe, distant target? Doesn't surprise me.
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some of you are holding up better than others.

Never had a beef with Smith, myself, but you would think some people would at least be reasonable.

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Watching Jesus get torn into confetti wasn't nearly as painful as trying to watch Keanu Reeves act in Sweet November.

Nope.

To be fair, I haven't seen but five minutes of Sweet November (I woke up, and it was on TBS. I swear.). I didn't sit through it for obvious reasons; unlike The Passion, no one on Earth is going to see that crap just to say they've seen it.

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this thread has become quite telling. False internet personalities giving way to their real ones.
It's curious to see, in a car wreck/ant farm/glass house kinda way.....

some of you are holding up better than others.

Some people started out strong and are self-destructing before our very eyes. OK, maybe just one person.


*munches popcorn*

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Wow. How did I miss all of this (other than because I rarely come to RT anymore)?

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Some people started out strong and are self-destructing before our very eyes. OK, maybe just one person.


*munches popcorn*

And bubba. Don't forget bubba.

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To be fair, I haven't seen but five minutes of Sweet November (I woke up, and it was on TBS. I swear.). I didn't sit through it for obvious reasons; unlike The Passion, no one on Earth is going to see that crap just to say they've seen it.
You know, if Mel Gibson came in here, I wonder if you'd change your tune.

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Hey Kevin Smith,

I saw you at the University of Maryland last year, and of the five hours of questions you answered, mine's was the only one that didn't involve an answer describing oral sex with Ben Affleck. My then-gf was a really big fan, so we stayed the entire time and missed our midnight screening of the live action PETER PAN (which rocks, if you haven't seen it).

So, how are you? You should stick around at Rotten Tomatoes, it's a fairly lively board, even if you do under a secret name. This guy Drunkenspike put his password up recently, you could steal that name.

Also, that night, I brought a copy of your Superman script to the lecture hall, but they said you weren't signing. It's a good script, btw.

Stick around, and if you ask nicely, I'll ghostwrite GREEN HORNET.

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P.S. I'm not seeing EPISODE THREE, simply out of principle. When the film comes out at the library, I will take it out for free and enjoy it on my big screen.

Just, y'know, to stay relevant.

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OK, maybe just one person.
I hope you don't mean me.

*awaits Smith's lame-ass reply with fervour*

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You know, if Mel Gibson came in here, I wonder if you'd change your tune. [Unable to display image]
Heh, not about The Passion--although it'd inevitably be brought up, I would avoid any conversation involving it. I've found that discussing that film does not often end well.

I'd make sure to tell him how rad Payback was, though.

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kevin: you should always make low-budget films, from limitation comes imagination

yes, I'm a film student and you are an inspiration to me

clerks 5/5
mallrats 3/5
chasing amy 4/5
dogma 4/5
jay and silent bob strike back 2/5
jersey girl 2/5

family flicks is not your thing, I recommended jersey girl to my non-geek friends before seing it because of your other films, and you make me look like a moron, they won't listen to me about movies anymore

sorry for the spelling

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For the record, I didn't write about "Sith" to persuade people to check the flick out (because, let's not kid ourselves: most of the people on the web don't need to be sold on it; they'll be seeing it regardless, whether theatrically or on DVD). That "review" was just a small portion of my daily online diary. But it got linked all over the 'net, and our website got hit so hard from all the traffic, that the "Sith" text was put onto its own page, so our message boards could function somewhat normally again.

What's weird to me, however, is how out-of-sorts some folks got about me writing about liking the flick - as if I had no right to do so, and no simple credibility afforded any other movie fan to express my enjoyment of a film I saw. I mean, I've had a website for a decade now, and I've spent a lot of time on the 'net, but even I was stunned by the rancor and anonymous hostility toward what was, in essence, me writing "Hey, I saw a movie I really dug."

Obviously its like one of your favorites. Last Temptation. We are talking about the holy vessel here. It ain't about your review. Fortunately and unfortunately for you, you are the only bastard that has seen it and everyone wants to know what you have seen.

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I know you think you've done well in the world, but no one will remember you in fifteen years.

Yeah - that's what some folks said ten years ago. And yet, here we are.
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I feel sorry for your wife. Oh yes, I went there!

Um.. went where, exactly?
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...writes the delicate creature who opened this little back-and-forth with "You blow harder than an unemployed, homeless trannie."

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Any more Roadside Attractions coming up, Kevin?

We might be doing one from the set of "Catch & Release" next month.

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I hope you don't mean me.

*awaits Smith's lame-ass reply with fervour*


I applauded your effort at first, but your recent posts have been excruciating to read in their juvenility. I told you I enjoyed seeing you not suck up to him, and I hold to that, because I think the few running around here virtually offering their first born to the man are pretty pathetic. But I thought you were mearly trying to get his attention before enganging in something other than a pissing contest. I was hoping for your insight into his work more along the lines of Atomic Cow's comments on Episode III. Honest, unforgiving, but atleast civilized. You're a brilliant gal. This just isn't your best moment. I get that you don't like the guy, but there are few reasons you have to dislike him that doesn't involve the movies he's made, though I really wouldn't know since you haven't really explained AT ALL why you have such hostility toward him...yet you seem intent to trash his character and not his work.

I'd like to see you trash his work, personally. Think he's a hack? Say so. Then tell me why.

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Yeah - that's what some folks said ten years ago. And yet, here we are.
Uh, yeah. Here we are. Since you're so great and famous....and respected.

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Um.. went where, exactly?
I don't know how she can stand you.
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...writes the delicate creature who opened this little back-and-forth with "You blow harder than an unemployed, homeless trannie."
It's called a joke. I should think you've heard of that since, you write "comedy". I added the "Have fun and post often!" with a huge grin, so you'd know I was playing. But I guess your skull is as thick as your waistline.

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mr. smith,
congratulations on your success. i like some of your films, i dont like others, but you seem to be a good guy, and you have a down to earth attitutde thats refreshing. i have been drinking natural ice for the past 3 hours, so i'm not very sober. this might not really be you, i can't tell. anyway, if it is you, just want to say keep up the good work. and dogma is one of my favorite films, especially the buddy christ part with the brilliant george carlin.

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This thread has just turned into a corner of lame. Someone post some porn and make it interesting.

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I applauded your effort at first, but your recent posts have been excruciating to read in their juvenility. I told you I enjoyed seeing you not suck up to him, and I hold to that, because I think the few running around here virtually offering their first born to the man are pretty pathetic. But I thought you were mearly trying to get his attention before enganging in something other than a pissing contest. I was hoping for your insight into his work more along the lines of Atomic Cow's comments on Episode III. Honest, unforgiving, but atleast civilized. You're a brilliant gal. This just isn't your best moment. I get that you don't like the guy, but there are few reasons you have to dislike him that doesn't involve the movies he's made, though I really wouldn't know since you haven't really explained AT ALL why you have such hostility toward him...yet you seem intent to trash his character and not his work.

I'd like to see you trash his work, personally. Think he's a hack? Say so. Then tell me why.

I think if you go back and read HIS replies, you'll see what set me off. He made it personal by saying I'm a lonely, unhappy girl (or possibly guy). After one post.

I also think I made it clear that I feel his movies are all the same, riding only on his ability (or lackthereof) to write dialogue. All he does is fill up pages with curse words and people praise how realistic and raw it is. He knows how to point a camera, hires (barely) competant actors, and viola. People think he makes masterpieces. He doesn't.

Clear now?

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this thread is not unlike an episode of Degrassi.

Ironic? Yeah...

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It's hard to love someone you don't know isn't it? It's even harder to hate them.
So, how does it feel to be hated by many?


I don't know, sir. You never really hear from the people who actually hate you; you only hear from the attention-seeking vocal minority who are mad you are where they'd like to be. And that's not real hatred. Because nobody with true enmity for somebody they've never met (enmity derived from a lack of similar tastes in movies, no less) wastes their time talking about (or, in this case, to) that person. Most folks just ignore the people they don't like, instead of trying to impress them with their grasp of the English language.
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Not really - but "being loved by even more" certainly dulls the din of the mewling few who'd have you believe their opinion is somehow more valid.
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He didn't direct Jersey Girl.

I hope you really feel that way, sir - I honestly do. I'll feel better knowing someone appreciates you - even if it's you appreciating yourself. Because when our exchange is over, I get to go back to a life where I reach millions and make them laugh and feel good, while you have to go back to anonymity.

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You guys aren't really this gullible are you? ARE YOU?

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Well, it is RT.

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Why do these crazy threads always occur at ungodly hours?

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this thread is not unlike an episode of Degrassi.
"Whatever it takes....."

I love watching it because it's so easy to satirize.

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I think if you go back and read HIS replies, you'll see what set me off. He made it personal by saying I'm a lonely, unhappy girl (or possibly guy). After one post.

I also think I made it clear that I feel his movies are all the same, riding only on his ability (or lackthereof) to write dialogue. All he does is fill up pages with curse words and people praise how realistic and raw it is. He knows how to point a camera, hires (barely) competant actors, and viola. People think he makes masterpieces. He doesn't.

Clear now?

It's coming into focus.

Well, you did call him a blowhard homeless trannie. Seems you started off with an insult that I'm not surprised he took seriously given that he walked straight into a thread that he replied to in the first place because there was such hostility toward his review.

If you expect him to be able to take a little ribbing, I'm surprised you didn't do the same when he naturally ribbed back. Instead you threw a temper tantrum and any point you wanted to make about his ability as a writer, director, etc. was lost in the heat of "I feel sorry for your wife" like comments. Yea, he's being an *** right back to ya. I'm just saying I'm not surprised given the genesis of the conversation.

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I also think I made it clear that I feel his movies are all the same, riding only on his ability (or lackthereof) to write dialogue. All he does is fill up pages with curse words and people praise how realistic and raw it is. He knows how to point a camera, hires (barely) competant actors, and viola. People think he makes masterpieces. He doesn't.

Clear now?

I'm a bit speechless. Well, a lot speechless.

Those that know me, know that takes a lot.

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Yo' Kevin, one question: Mallrats, why?

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It's coming into focus.

Well, you did call him a blowhard homeless trannie. Seems you started off with an insult that I'm not surprised he took seriously given that he walked straight into a thread that he replied to in the first place because there was such hostility toward his review.

That's exactly the post you congratulated me on.
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If you expect him to be able to take a little ribbing, I'm surprised you didn't do the same when he naturally ribbed back. Instead you threw a temper tantrum and any point you wanted to make about his ability as a writer, director, etc. was lost in the heat of "I feel sorry for your wife" like comments. Yea, he's being an *** right back to ya. I'm just saying I'm not surprised given the genesis of the conversation.
For the second and third replies, I was still joking. It's called sarcasm, not a temper tantrum. I didn't get angry until he started being out of line and saying how sad I was (when it's the opposite, in fact) and even saying 'retarded girl'. How classy. He clearly is immature and needs to relax. I admit I overreacted, but the whole time I was doing it with humour, in the moment. I'm sorry I didn't make it clear.

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I don't know, sir. You never really hear from the people who actually hate you; you only hear from the attention-seeking vocal minority who are mad you are where they'd like to be. And that's not real hatred. Because nobody with true enmity for somebody they've never met (enmity derived from a lack of similar tastes in movies, no less) wastes their time talking about (or, in this case, to) that person. Most folks just ignore the people they don't like, instead of trying to impress them with their grasp of the English language.



Not really - but "being loved by even more" certainly dulls the din of the mewling few who'd have you believe their opinion is somehow more valid.



I hope you really feel that way, sir - I honestly do. I'll feel better knowing someone appreciates you - even if it's you appreciating yourself. Because when our exchange is over, I get to go back to a life where I reach millions and make them laugh and feel good, while you have to go back to anonymity.

bah! you were looking impressive, until self-congratulatory Mr. Smith reared his ugly head. or are comments like this reserved only for those who dislike your work while your actual fans, who HAVE been vocal here as well and have offered you internal organs should you ever need a transplant, get to not feel inferior to you because you are a popular filmmaker?

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I saw you at the University of Maryland last year,

That was the night Mewes was with me for a little while, yes? The night "Hellboy" opened?

I thought you looked familiar.
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and of the five hours of questions you answered, mine's was the only one that didn't involve an answer describing oral sex with Ben Affleck.

So many queries, so many responses that champion oral sex with Affleck. You'll have to refresh my memory as to what your question was, sir.
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My then-gf was a really big fan, so we stayed the entire time and missed our midnight screening of the live action PETER PAN (which rocks, if you haven't seen it).

The PJ Hogan flick? I have a kid, so I've, indeed, seen it - in a theater, no less. I like Jason Issacs quite a bit, so I dug the flick.
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I'm well, sir. Granted, thus far on this board I've been called a pig by a true pig, and been charged with having a God-complex by someone with a bigger and more apparent (Old Testament, fire-and-brimstone) God-complex, but other than that, the folks here seem like pretty good folks.
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You should stick around at Rotten Tomatoes, it's a fairly lively board, even if you do under a secret name. This guy Drunkenspike put his password up recently, you could steal that name.

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Also, that night, I brought a copy of your Superman script to the lecture hall, but they said you weren't signing. It's a good script, btw.

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I don't know, sir. You never really hear from the people who actually hate you; you only hear from the attention-seeking vocal minority who are mad you are where they'd like to be. And that's not real hatred. Because nobody with true enmity for somebody they've never met (enmity derived from a lack of similar tastes in movies, no less) wastes their time talking about (or, in this case, to) that person. Most folks just ignore the people they don't like, instead of trying to impress them with their grasp of the English language.



Not really - but "being loved by even more" certainly dulls the din of the mewling few who'd have you believe their opinion is somehow more valid.



I hope you really feel that way, sir - I honestly do. I'll feel better knowing someone appreciates you - even if it's you appreciating yourself. Because when our exchange is over, I get to go back to a life where I reach millions and make them laugh and feel good, while you have to go back to anonymity.


Cult is rough around the edges admittidly and you have to find something better to do then get into a battle of the wits with an 18 year old girl. She insulted your movies because to her and all of us we don't know you personally, so we feel alot more freedom when it comes to making nasty comments. If you get your jollies off from outwitting an 18 year old girl, then congratulations you are a cockgrabber. That is all.

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Well Kev, it seems you've won. You are rich, therefore your opinion means more and you are happier than everyone else. Good for you, my man.


Folks, this right here is what fame and fortune does to you - in real-time. Take notes and pray to the almighty Christ you don't suffer the same fate.

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kevin: you should always make low-budget films, from limitation comes imagination

I agree with you, sir.
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I hope you'll understand that I don't agree with all of your numbers. But I imagine we can agree to disagree.
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That's exactly the post you congratulated me on.
Only for getting his attention. When you got it, you went nowhere with it.
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For the second and third replies, I was still joking. It's called sarcasm, not a temper tantrum. I didn't get angry until he started being out of line and saying how sad I was (when it's the opposite, in fact) and even saying 'retarded girl'. How classy. He clearly is immature and needs to relax. I admit I overreacted, but the whole time I was doing it with humour, in the moment. I'm sorry I didn't make it clear.
Yes, he is immature and needs to relax. I can agree. There are eleventy billion people in this thread willing to kowtow to him, but he feels the need to trade insults instead. And ok, it was sarcasm, and while it read that way, when you overreacted it read like a sarcastic temper tantrum because Kevin Smith was insulting you.

I can agree with some of the things you think about him and his career. I just know there was a better way for you to say it.

Frankly, there's still time.

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Well, it's nice to see you actually talking to the people who like you around here. There's quite a few of them. Just not too many up at 3:30am I suppose.

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It's cool that Kevin Smith is here, but Morimoto is in a rice battle with Masayoshi Kimura. I'll have to check this thread later.

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Only for getting his attention. When you got it, you went nowhere with it.
I came in not knowing if it was even him or not, and did that on an impluse. I didn't even have anything to say to him. Which is why my second reply was a small one. Then he replied again, and it started...
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Yes, he is immature and needs to relax. I can agree. There are eleventy billion people in this thread willing to kowtow to him, but he feels the need to trade insults instead. And ok, it was sarcasm, and while it read that way, when you overreacted it read like a sarcastic temper tantrum because Kevin Smith was insulting you.
Which was my whole point. I was pretending to be seriously offended at his sad lamess. I even used caps to make it come acrross. I guess you didn't catch that.
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I can agree with some of the things you think about him and his career. I just know there was a better way for you to say it.

Frankly, there's still time.

I don't think I need to waste any more energy on him. No one seems to get that I've been joking (although I do think he's a jackass).

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Well, it's nice to see you actually talking to the people who like you around here. There's quite a few of them. Just not too many up at 3:30am I suppose.
Indeed. It's too bad antony_pritch isn't around. Oh well.

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You are rich, therefore your opinion means more and you are happier than everyone else.
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Don't blame anyone, let alone Kevin Smith, for society's "shortcomings".

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I came in not knowing if it was even him or not, and did that on an impluse. I didn't even have anything to say to him. Which is why my second reply was a small one. Then he replied again, and it started...


Which was my whole point. I was pretending to be seriously offended at his sad lamess. I even used caps to make it come acrross. I guess you didn't catch that.


I don't think I need to waste any more energy on him. No one seems to get that I've been joking (although I do think he's a jackass).

Fair enough.

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Kevin, I remember reading an article a while back about a script you read and consequently broke down something along the lines of, "30% musical, 30% Sci-Fi and 40% Pulp Fiction[paraphrase]".

Yes, I don't remember the name. Could you possibly give us a rundown on it, what makes it good/whatever, and if that includes reminding me of the name of it, so be it.

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Uh, yeah. Here we are. Since you're so great and famous....and respected.

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Sometimes, neither can I.

Oh, wait - I do know how she can stand me: because we don't relate to one another like you and I relate to one another. We're in love, so we communicate with warmth.
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It's called a joke. I should think you've heard of that since, you write "comedy". I added the "Have fun and post often!" with a huge grin, so you'd know I was playing.

And yet, when I played back, you got weird on me, hon. This is one of those pot-calling-the-kettle-black kinda scenarios. I apologize, good lady: it would seem you're used to kidding and not being kidded back. In the future, we'll keep to a strictly one-sided relationship in which you can hurl vulgar jeremiads at me, and I'll politely respond with a "huge grin" post, then go back to answering questions for the other posters. That way, we'll avoid all these tears.
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congratulations on your success.

Thank you, sir.
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i like some of your films, i dont like others

Fair enough. I'm happy you at least gave most of 'em a try.
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but you seem to be a good guy, and you have a down to earth attitutde thats refreshing.

Don't be fooled by the rocks that I got, I'm still, I'm still Kevy from the block.
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i have been drinking natural ice for the past 3 hours, so i'm not very sober. this might not really be you, i can't tell.

It's me. I just look thinner because you're drunk.
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anyway, if it is you, just want to say keep up the good work. and dogma is one of my favorite films, especially the buddy christ part with the brilliant george carlin.

Thanks, man. I shall certainly try.

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we communicate with warmth.

Like with hair dryers?

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Except by you. And it's your respect that I crave, Cult Icon.
I'm sure you don't care what I think at all. But it's not me I'm talking about.
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Sometimes, neither can I.

Oh, wait - I do know how she can stand me: because we don't relate to one another like you and I relate to one another. We're in love, so we communicate with warmth.

God bless her. I admire her strength.

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And yet, when I played back, you got weird on me, hon. This is one of those pot-calling-the-kettle-black kinda scenarios. I apologize, good lady: it would seem you're used to kidding and not being kidded back. In the future, we'll keep to a strictly one-sided relationship in which you can hurl vulgar jeremiads at me, and I'll politely respond with a "huge grin" post, then go back to answering questions for the other posters. That way, we'll avoid all these tears.
I was joking back! Notice the caps and sarcasm! I'm sick of explaining this. *tears hair out*
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I think the gal knows whereof she speaks, folks. Something tells me she shops at the female equivalent of the Casual Male Big & Tall stores I frequent.
Cute, but everyone here has already seen my pictures. I apologize for the weight crack, but I couldn't think of anything else 'thick' about you.

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this thread is not unlike an episode of Degrassi.

This will only be true when one of us gets an abortion, and/or offers oral sex in exchange for bracelets.

Then there's the cutting, of course...

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That was the night Mewes was with me for a little while, yes? The night "Hellboy" opened?

I thought you looked familiar.



So many queries, so many responses that champion oral sex with Affleck. You'll have to refresh my memory as to what your question was, sir.



The PJ Hogan flick? I have a kid, so I've, indeed, seen it - in a theater, no less. I like Jason Issacs quite a bit, so I dug the flick.



I'm well, sir. Granted, thus far on this board I've been called a pig by a true pig, and been charged with having a God-complex by someone with a bigger and more apparent (Old Testament, fire-and-brimstone) God-complex, but other than that, the folks here seem like pretty good folks.



If I didn't already have another home, I might take you up on the offer. But I'm needed (and wanted) elsewhere.



Thanks, man. I appreciate that. Been awhile since I read it, so I don't know whether I'd agree with you still or not, but back when I wrote in, I remember enjoying it.



Where were you when I would have seriously taken you up on that offer?

Hey, thanks for answering back. The question, btw, was about other directors helming your scripts, and how you couldn't name any you'd prefer. Or maybe you directing other people's scripts. Don't remember.

Anyway, since you're plugging your site (I prefer www.moviepoopshoot.com btw, tell Scott Tipton he rules), I figured I'd plug this as I thought it would be interesting to browse, if you're curious about RT.

Oh, and I'll be seeing you in Hollywood, sooner rather than later.

Party on, KS.

Oh, and it's overdue, but that was pretty solid the way you handled the heckler who said, "Jersey Girl sucks!" and then tried to give you his own movie on DVD.

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Well, you did call him a blowhard homeless trannie. Seems you started off with an insult that I'm not surprised he took seriously given that he walked straight into a thread that he replied to in the first place because there was such hostility toward his review.
If you expect him to be able to take a little ribbing, I'm surprised you didn't do the same when he naturally ribbed back. Instead you threw a temper tantrum and any point you wanted to make about his ability as a writer, director, etc. was lost in the heat of "I feel sorry for your wife" like comments. Yea, he's being an *** right back to ya. I'm just saying I'm not surprised given the genesis of the conversation.


Seconded.

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This will only be true when one of us gets an abortion, and/or offers oral sex in exchange for bracelets.

Then there's the cutting, of course...

Well, you can't get an abortion, and I don't see you as a cutter. You looking for a bracelet?
I'm fresh outta bracelets I'm afraid.

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I came in not knowing if it was even him or not, and did that on an impluse. I didn't even have anything to say to him. Which is why my second reply was a small one. Then he replied again, and it started...


Which was my whole point. I was pretending to be seriously offended at his sad lamess. I even used caps to make it come acrross. I guess you didn't catch that.


I don't think I need to waste any more energy on him. No one seems to get that I've been joking (although I do think he's a jackass).


Nobody got the joke and that's how this whole ordeal escalated into a needless battle. It's likely that you and Smith were the only two people in here joking. Ignore him and he'll go back to the movie exec's to claim his money for pimping Ben Affleck's horse mouth on their genitals.

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Hey Kev, this sounds a bit lame, sure, but we're all on a movie message board in the wee hours anyhow. A good bit of us RTers/Axisers are having a light Truth or Dare game, and we're having trouble coming up with a good Truth question. You're one of those "creative" minds--help a brutha out?

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Yo' Kevin, one question: Mallrats, why?

Seemed funny at the time.

And, to be honest, it's the one flick of mine that is most often acknowledged as the gateway flick to the rest: that is to say, it's the movie of mine most folks report seeing first which then made them seek out the rest of the flicks I've done.

So while I don't understand the draw "Mallrats" seemingly has for a lot of people (mind you, Universal Home Video decided to do another version of the DVD - to be released in the fall - because the first one is an evergreen title that apparently sold very well), I do really appreciate it.

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And, to be honest, it's the one flick of mine that is most often acknowledged as the gateway flick to the rest...


Mallrats = Kevin Smith marajuana. That is awesome.

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bah! you were looking impressive, until self-congratulatory Mr. Smith reared his ugly head.

I wasn't aware I was being graded.
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or are comments like this reserved only for those who dislike your work

Pretty much, yeah.

What can I say? I greet derision with derision, sir. The man asked me what it was like to be so hated, and I, in turn, wished him well in his appreciation for himself, as he sank back into the cold embrace of anonymity.

Since when am I supposed to be above the low-blows? Fire with fire, and all that.

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Isn't this just lovely? I make a joke, it gets out of hand and suddenly everyone is kissing Smith's ass again and stating how much I overreacted.

Let's not forget these hilariously light-hearted Smith gems:

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Because I've already written a script called "Retarded Lonely Girl on the Internet Hurls Her Voice into the Void Nightly, Praying for Understanding". We're shooting it after "Clerks 2".
It would almost be clever if it weren't such a big, rude assumption. Especially after he admits he's addicted to the internet. Oh but wait, he's rich and lives his life with warmth. Unlike me.
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That's the difference between you and I, madam: I have actual work to keep up, good (in your estimation) or not. You don't get down on yourself because you have only the movie forum to keep you warm at night.
Again, because I'm on the internet at the same time as him he resorts to the same insult/joke/whatever it is.

Anyway, it's waaay too late, but I just want to say: I actually didn't mind you at first, Smith. I said the insult as a joke (for the 100th time). It's the way you would insult a girl over the internet that you barely know (and how old are you again?) that made me decide you're just a crappy person in general. Maybe I'm not much better, but I can admit it.

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Cult is rough around the edges admittidly and you have to find something better to do then get into a battle of the wits with an 18 year old girl.

Sir, I honestly thought we were just kidding around. Then she went psycho on me.
[QUOTE She insulted your movies because to her and all of us we don't know you personally, so we feel alot more freedom when it comes to making nasty comments. If you get your jollies off from outwitting an 18 year old girl, then congratulations you are a cockgrabber.[/QUOTE]
So lemme get this straight: she digs at my movies and that's okay. I dig back at her (because she hasn't made any movies I'm aware of), and disproportionately, I'm a cockgrabber? Got it.

And what's wrong with cockgrabbing? You telling me you don't like having your cockgrabbed. I hold those who'd grab my **** in only the highest regard.

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Sir, I honestly thought we were just kidding around. Then she went psycho on me.
I thought it was the other way around.

Go back and read the posts. I clearly, CLEARLY wasn't being serious.

And what's with the sirs? amberlita isn't one, and niether half the guys here...

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I wasn't aware I was being graded.
You're always being graded. You're a filmmaker.

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Pretty much, yeah.

What can I say? I greet derision with derision, sir. The man asked me what it was like to be so hated, and I, in turn, wished him well in his appreciation for himself, as he sank back into the cold embrace of anonymity.

Since when am I supposed to be above the low-blows? Fire with fire, and all that.
You're not supposed to be above them, but comments that sound like you touting your life as more important than the little nothings that only have the pleasure of surfing the internet seemed less like a well-placed zinger and more like a Freudian slip. I wouldn't be surprised if you actually felt this way because this attitude underscores so many of your insults back at any criticisms in this thread, including Cult Icon's.

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You're not supposed to be above them, but comments that sound like you touting your life as more important than the little nothings that only have the pleasure of surfing the internet seemed less like a well-placed zinger and more like a Freudian slip. I wouldn't be surprised if you actually felt this way because this attitude underscores so many of your insults back at any criticisms in this thread, including Cult Icon's.

Exactly.

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Exactly.
I thought you were going to bed? Come back to chat, woman!

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I thought you were going to bed? Come back to chat, woman!
Only if you promise to cheer me up. I just found out Santa Claus (Kevin Smith) isn't real.

(Not a weight crack, or saying you're an alias. I meant I found out you really are a shallow, vapid, egotistical...hag. Yes, hag. It's my new favorite word.)

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The number of you that are in hyper-geek mode now that Kevin Smith has posted is horrendous. Get ahold of yourselves, you're embarassing the rest of us fanboys.

Kevin- call me.

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Isn't this just lovely? I make a joke, it gets out of hand and suddenly everyone is kissing Smith's ass again and stating how much I overreacted.
If you are addressing me I'd prefer you just say so. If you aren't, then ignore what I'm about to say.....I think you both overreacted, I just don't understand why you seem to think it's surprising that he did and are now taking offense to what he's said all while claiming foul that any jokes from you that could have been read by HIM as insulting, were not taken the way you wanted them to be. That he didn't get your joke. I got your joke. I just saw it go a different direction than I thought it was going. And if you think I'm kissing his ***, then you really are overreacting. I think I'm being honest, but I don't feel the need to insult his mother (not that you did that, but to me that would be decidedly the epitome of NOT kissing his ***).

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Well Kev, it seems you've won.

Yes. You Got Served.

And "Won" what, exactly? The right to post here without a random hostile trying to rain on my parade because I've made a bunch of movies he/she doesn't like? Bitter fruit, that.
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You are rich, therefore your opinion means more and you are happier than everyone else. Good for you, my man.


I don't understand why you've twice brought money into the discussion. For a voice of the proletariat, you sure come off as kinda high-falutin'. You sound like Barton Fink, sir - the character, not the film itself.

Folks, this right here is what fame and fortune does to you - in real-time.

There ya' go again - you seem to measure success solely in monetary terms. Me? I measure it in career longevity; in respect of my peers; in honest appreciation from folks whose lives I've touched with the simple stories I've told.

Based on that criteria, I guess you're right: I'm stinkin' rich.
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Yeah, folks - you don't want any of this. Personal and professional fulfillment and affection from virtual strangers who enjoy what you have to say pave the road to absolute ruin.

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Exactly.
Glad we can come together on something here, girly. Admittedly, no I didn't like what he said to you there. Calling someone a lonely retard doesn't bode well for one's claims to be above everyone else.

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I was reffering to everyone who's been posting to, like I said, kiss Smith's ass. Not you. We already sorted it out, I thought.

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Sir, I honestly thought we were just kidding around. Then she went psycho on me.
[QUOTE She insulted your movies because to her and all of us we don't know you personally, so we feel alot more freedom when it comes to making nasty comments. If you get your jollies off from outwitting an 18 year old girl, then congratulations you are a cockgrabber.

So lemme get this straight: she digs at my movies and that's okay. I dig back at her (because she hasn't made any movies I'm aware of), and disproportionately, I'm a cockgrabber? Got it.

And what's wrong with cockgrabbing? You telling me you don't like having your cockgrabbed. I hold those who'd grab my **** in only the highest regard.[/QUOTE]I'm trying to not get in the middle of a ridiculous arguement that started with a poorly executed joke. The time for that is over, I have to be both a friend to the girl and as I'm sure you know, not taking her side is grounds for physical torture. Any girl in fact. The both of you played this out in an ugly way, I've been in plenty of these arguements, and more then enough of them were with cult icon. All that I wanted to do was remain respectful of the both of you and hope to give you some insight into how this thing could have been prevented. But that's clearly a disaster and I was stupid to get involved.

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Kevin, I remember reading an article a while back about a script you read and consequently broke down something along the lines of, "30% musical, 30% Sci-Fi and 40% Pulp Fiction[paraphrase]".

I think you're talking about Richard Kelly's new flick, "Southland Tales".
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Yes, I don't remember the name. Could you possibly give us a rundown on it, what makes it good/whatever, and if that includes reminding me of the name of it, so be it.

I'm not spoiling a word of that script. Suffice to say it's an incredibly original flick that will create a very big buzz.

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Seemed funny at the time.

And, to be honest, it's the one flick of mine that is most often acknowledged as the gateway flick to the rest: that is to say, it's the movie of mine most folks report seeing first which then made them seek out the rest of the flicks I've done.

So while I don't understand the draw "Mallrats" seemingly has for a lot of people (mind you, Universal Home Video decided to do another version of the DVD - to be released in the fall - because the first one is an evergreen title that apparently sold very well), I do really appreciate it.

The only good thing about that flick was Jason Lee.

I have a better a question though:

How do you feel about that schmuck Judd Winnick sullying your great work with Green Arrow and giving Mia H.I.V.? Also how do you feel about him bringing back Jason Todd?

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Anyway, since you're plugging your site (I prefer www.moviepoopshoot.com btw, tell Scott Tipton he rules), I figured I'd plug this as I thought it would be interesting to browse, if you're curious about RT.

I think Payden from "Hand That Rocks the Cradle" was such an interesting choice that I'll now read the other three pages of that thread.
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Oh, and I'll be seeing you in Hollywood, sooner rather than later.

Only if you hang out in my bedroom, sir. I don't hang out in Hollywood. I'm kind of a house-bug.
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Oh, and it's overdue, but that was pretty solid the way you handled the heckler who said, "Jersey Girl sucks!" and then tried to give you his own movie on DVD.

With this gig, sometimes it's a b**ch and sometimes it's a breeze.

Thanks for the kind words.

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This is great,Thanks Kevin for once again showing me the funniest thing of the day. lol. I don't think Kevin ever told anyone to take his review as a real critic review but more as an experience that he posted in his blog (it's funny as hell BTW). I think he would agree with this... Watch the movie and come up with your own opinion because in the end only you know what you like. To everyone who bitched about Kevin... You just got schooled by him and to all who like him...... Come with me over to the Viewaskew.com message boards.
I'd love to, but I fear K's hole isn't big enough to fit my tongue up his ass when yours is so firmly wedged up there.

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I was reffering to everyone who's been posting to, like I said, kiss Smith's ass. Not you. We already sorted it out, I thought.
Yea, it's cool. No worries. Just sounded like me is all.

And cause I'm paranoid.

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This thread has turned sad. At least the alias is creative though.

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This thread has turned sad. At least the alias is creative though.
Haven't seen you around in quite a while. Come, cross to that dark side of forums that everyone is talking about.

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I think you're talking about Richard Kelly's new flick, "Southland Tales".

I'm not spoiling a word of that script. Suffice to say it's an incredibly original flick that will create a very big buzz.

That's the one. Thanks.

Even with all the good things said about it, I can't help thinking, "But it has Amy Poehler in it". If you have a scene with her, tell her she's set comedy back ten years. Whether you actually say it or say who said it, that's up to you.

And is that Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson in it, or some other Dwayne?

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Hey Kev, this sounds a bit lame, sure, but we're all on a movie message board in the wee hours anyhow. A good bit of us RTers/Axisers are having a light Truth or Dare game, and we're having trouble coming up with a good Truth question. You're one of those "creative" minds--help a brutha out?

Truth: Did you ever pimp Ben Affleck's horse mouth on the movie exec's genitals?

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One question Kevin... can you explain the Jungian philiosophy that is rampant in Jay And Silent Bob Strike Back? I mean it's quite astonishing how Jay believes Silent Bob is the Budda, and the trip to Hollywood is the answer to life.

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Well, it's time for me to go to sleep.

Kevin: make a good movie, ok? Just one. I appreciate it.

Everyone else: goodnight.

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Haven't seen you around in quite a while. Come, cross to that dark side of forums that everyone is talking about.
Sure I'll join. I have enough free time. Umm how do I get there?

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Kev, do normal people often turn into cringing sycophants around you, or do you have to get your cock out first?

*simpers

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Kev, what are you doing up at 4:30 in the morning?

I live in my parent's basement... I have my reasons.

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Truth: Did you ever pimp Ben Affleck's horse mouth on the movie exec's genitals?
Helpful, but we're on to talking about lesbian experiences.. much more intriguing.

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Sure I'll join. I have enough free time. Umm how do I get there?
www.axisarchives.org

The cool kids hang out in OT, in 9/H.

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You're always being graded. You're a filmmaker.

****... Why wasn't I told this in film school?
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You're not supposed to be above them, but comments that sound like you touting your life as more important than the little nothings that only have the pleasure of surfing the internet seemed less like a well-placed zinger and more like a Freudian slip.

Duly noted.

However, I will say that, at the point that I posted the comment in question, I was the only poster in the thread actually acknowledging Kubrick. So when I wrote that once I went back to my life he'd go back to anonymity, I wasn't wholly wrong, nor was I being dismissive of people who post on the internet (a people I am one of, incidentally).

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Kevin- call me.

You say this, and then you never pick up when I do call.

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You say this, and then you never pick up when I do call.

It's my wife... she doesn't want me "fraternising" with "your kind". I'm sorry.

"Chasing Amy" was fantastic, by the way. Thanks for that at least.


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****... Why wasn't I told this in film school?



Duly noted.

However, I will say that, at the point that I posted the comment in question, I was the only poster in the thread actually acknowledging Kubrick. So when I wrote that once I went back to my life he'd go back to anonymity, I wasn't wholly wrong, nor was I being dismissive of people who post on the internet (a people I am one of, incidentally).


Fair enough.

Well, good luck with the...thing. While I'm lukewarm to many of your movies, must say I laughed my *** off at your comments at the Empire Awards, which empireonline had up the acceptance speeches.


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Glad we can come together on something here, girly. Admittedly, no I didn't like what he said to you there. Calling someone a lonely retard doesn't bode well for one's claims to be above everyone else.

In the words of a great man/woman
If you are addressing me I'd prefer you just say so. If you aren't, then ignore what I'm about to say.....

I can't recall ever claiming "to be above everyone else" - not only in this thread, but anywhere ever.

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The only good thing about that flick was Jason Lee.

You echo the sentiment of the New York Times review of the flick, sir.

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I have a better a question though:
How do you feel about that schmuck Judd Winnick sullying your great work with Green Arrow and giving Mia H.I.V.?

I wish someone in editorial had asked me about it first. Mia was a character I created, so it would've been nice.

Before we killed off Karen Page in "Daredevil", Joe Quesada and I asked Stan Lee for permission.
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Wasn't aware he did/was doing that. I don't read a ton of comics anymore - particularly not a lot of DC (and I used to be an all-DC guy). I'm pretty much down to "Gotham Central" at the moment.

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In the words of a great man/woman
If you are addressing me I'd prefer you just say so. If you aren't, then ignore what I'm about to say.....

I can't recall ever claiming "to be above everyone else" - not only in this thread, but anywhere ever.

Woman. And it was an inference from what you were saying, not something that you said directly. That is all.

And if you call me great again, I might just have to give Mallrats another chance.


Wait.....naw, that won't happen.

Good luck to ya anyway. You've pimped your site enough, I might be sleep walking to it once I hit the sack.

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Wasn't aware he did/was doing that. I don't read a ton of comics anymore - particularly not a lot of DC (and I used to be an all-DC guy). I'm pretty much down to "Gotham Central" at the moment.

That's a shame, anything by Geof Johns you really should be reading.

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One question Kevin... can you explain the Jungian philiosophy that is rampant in Jay And Silent Bob Strike Back?

Beyond the fact that one is an introvert and the other's an extrovert? Not at two in the morning I can't.

This place has become like UltimateBet.com: I know I should call it a night, but I keep thinking that good hand is right around the corner.

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Kevin,

Clerks was one of the first independent films I ever saw, and has continued to inspire me and make me laugh over the years as I myself attempt to become a indie filmmaker while toiling away at a video store job full of idiot customers who refer to movies like Pulp Fiction as "you know, those movies actors just do for the money". So thanks. Hopefully one day I can thank you in person.

Feeling like I should ask a question... what did you think of Rodriguez's Sin City?

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Well, it's time for me to go to sleep.
Kevin: make a good movie, ok? Just one. I appreciate it.


Only if you promise to make anything.

Other than posts that seem to delight only you, natch.

I appreciated our time together, sir. You are number 83 in an ongoing series of people just like you I've encountered in my sojourns 'round the 'net; people who I bump ugly with for a moment and never hear from again.

Whether or not that's because they slip back into anonymity, I'll let amberlita21 decide.

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Kev, do normal people often turn into cringing sycophants around you, or do you have to get your cock out first?

You call the few kindly posts found on these last few pages sycophantic, sir? You've obviously not spent much time around real, bona fide celebrities and watched the world interact with them.

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Kev, what are you doing up at 4:30 in the morning?

It's only two in the morning for me, as I'm on the west side.

As for what I'm doing up at two in the morning...

Christ, I don't know.

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"Chasing Amy" was fantastic, by the way. Thanks for that at least.

See? And I didn't even get my **** out first.

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Well, good luck with the...thing. While I'm lukewarm to many of your movies, must say I laughed my *** off at your comments at the Empire Awards, which empireonline had up the acceptance speeches.

I thank you for liking at least something that I've done.
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It's my wife... she doesn't want me "fraternising" with "your kind". I'm sorry.

"Chasing Amy" was fantastic, by the way. Thanks for that at least.


*squirm

*undulate

To be fair, I came in here thinking he was being attacked from all sides. I complimented to give him some breathing space. I didn't know he was being licked up and down. I think some people were just trying to alleviate the tension because we know how mean these threads can get between people who can hide behind their anonymity - he doesn't have that. The bastard didn't even acknowledge my post anyway. That's the last time I rush in on my white horse to save a filty rich, college-circuit, movie-making celebrity. Go to hell, the lot of you.

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You've pimped your site enough, I might be sleep walking to it once I hit the sack.

They sleepwalk in, and then stay forever.

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That's a shame, anything by Geof Johns you really should be reading.

I used to love "Justice Society". Then, I fell behind by about a year, and haven't found the missing issues or the place to jump back into the story.

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So thanks. Hopefully one day I can thank you in person.

You pretty much just did, sir.

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Feeling like I should ask a question... what did you think of Rodriguez's Sin City?

Loved it. The best looking black & white film I've ever seen.

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To be fair, I came in here thinking he was being attacked from all sides. I complimented to give him some breathing space. I didn't know he was being licked up and down. I think some people were just trying to alleviate the tension because we know how mean these threads can get between people who can hide behind their anonymity - he doesn't have that. The bastard didn't even acknowledge my post anyway.

Ah, but in my heart, I did.
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That's the last time I rush in on my white horse to save a filty rich, college-circuit, movie-making celebrity.

b**ch, b**ch, b**ch...

I appreciate the kind words, sir/madam. You reminded me of the good out there in the world while I was mired in a bog of hater-ade.

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Fine don't answer my question!!!! Punk director.

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You call the few kindly posts found on these last few pages sycophantic, sir? You've obviously not spent much time around real, bona fide celebrities and watched the world interact with them.
I once saw Noel Edmunds at Debenhams. Does that count?

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You pretty much just did, sir.
But you didn't get the full effect of my shaking hands and my stuttering words as I bashfully stared at my shoes trying not to vomit all over you. Wouldn't want you to miss out on that.
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Originally Posted by KevinSmith
Loved it. The best looking black & white film I've ever seen.
Good to hear. In my mind, there is no one more creative making movies right now than Robert Rodriguez.

Another question (hey, as long as you're here, why not?)... which do you prefer, Before Sunrise or Before Sunset and why?

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Out of four stars:

Movies:
Eddie Izzard: Dressed To Kill (*)
Happy Together (****)
The Jacket (No Stars)
Fall (**)
What The "Bleep" Do We Know? (**)
Stage Beauty (*)
Alfie (***)
Metallica: Some Kind Of Monster (***)
Paparazzi (No Stars)
Bamboozled (****)
Network (***)

Songs:
Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds - "Into My Arms"
Jon Brion - "Knock Yourself Out"
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folder icon   05-03-2005, 02:14 AM
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I'm sorry, I got a little carried away there, Kevin. So where are my tacos? I expect them by air mail.

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Last movies I've seen:

Straw Dogs (Peckinpah) (***) Average first half, but I understand it was for the build up; second half is perfect and amazing.
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And with that, I'm off, too, folks. Duty (and first love) calls me back home, to http://www.viewaskew.com. Should you ever miss me, that's where I can always be found.

Thanks for an interesting evening. Thanks for the kind words. Thanks even for your bile - because even a poorly-spoken non-fan more than likely gave at least one of my flicks a try at one point or another. So thanks for the shot.

Swing by our board, if you're ever feeling so inclined. We'd love to have you.

Snoogans.

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