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Originally Posted by Boba Sweat
- "Revenge of the Sith" is, quite simply, fu<i>c</i>king awesome. This is the "Star Wars" prequel the haters have been bitching for since "Menace" came out
Wait, in Clerks: The Animated Series, didn't Dante call George Lucas to the witness stand and demand his 9 bucks back after having to sit through The Phantom Menace? And he's pointing the 'hater' card at others?
I think a certain person was a little geek-struck upon invitation from Mr. "Empire Strikes Back" himself to view a test screening that he went a little overboard with his praise.
And didn't KS call Jersey Girl his "best film yet?"
Anyway, if ROTS is as much an improvement over AOTC as AOTC was over TPM (which is entirely based on how much lameness he manages to avoid with his dialogue/poor direction etc., and how much he stresses the few things he does right) than I'll be satisfied (barely, though).
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Originally Posted by Joe_Banana
Wait, in Clerks: The Animated Series, didn't Dante call George Lucas to the witness stand and demand his 9 bucks back after having to sit through The Phantom Menace? And he's pointing the 'hater' card at others?
Are you suggesting that Dante's actions solely reflect the opinions of Kevin Smith and that we can use that character as a barometer for all of KS's opinions and beliefs?
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04-28-2005, 10:39 PM |
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Originally Posted by Elvin Whore
what the feck? you think i'm an australian?
What in the hell?
I didn't post this.
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Originally Posted by Assassin
Still waiting for GOOD REASONS...not cynical OPINIONS.
They're great reasons what are you talking about.
Name me a good Kevin Smith film. Go ahead, I dare you!
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04-29-2005, 12:06 AM |
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Originally Posted by Boba Sweat
Now I know Kevin has been kind to the other two
Which is odd, because I remember reading an article he wrote for July/August 2002 issue of Film Comment where he called watching the prequels like watching a train wreck. Not exactly the kind of praise I'd want for my movie.
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which to me isn't a<i>s</i>s-kissing cuz I liked them too.
No, but he may be, especially if the rumors are true that he'll get to direct a trio of episodes for the new SW television series. 
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Originally Posted by Single-Serving Friend
They're great reasons what are you talking about.
Name me a good Kevin Smith film. Go ahead, I dare you!
Clerks, Chasing Amy, Dogma...
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04-29-2005, 01:01 AM |
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Smith is an unapologetic Star Wars fanboy, which is fine. I appreciate anyone who can be so unabashed in their opinion, especially in the face of overwhelming cynicism about the current state of Star Wars.
That said, I think relatively little of his filmography, as long as we're tangentally mentioning that. I find Clerks overrated, Chasing Amy juvenile, Dogma heavy-handed. Perhaps ironically, Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back is my favorite film of his, mostly because it is an unrestrained exercise in humorous self-indulgence, a filmmaking trait I think Smith is extremely gifted at. It's juvenile, funny, and has no pretensions to being more than that -- something I cannot say for the rest of his work.
I think Kevin Smith's films are funny, but not particulary insightful if you're over, say, 19 or so. That said, I take his review of Episode III as extremely good news.
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I find Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back quite funny as well. In fact, the only Smith movie I can't stand is Jersey Girl. But as I mentioned earlier in the thread, if anyone wants to see Kevin Smith at his best, check out some of his work on the Daredevil books.
I think his review of Sith is great news. He's a fan boy, and although I wasn't completely happy with the other two prequels I'm a fan boy as well.
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Originally Posted by Red Barchetta
Clerks, Chasing Amy, Dogma...
Those aren't good films!
*slap*
Try again.
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Originally Posted by Single-Serving Friend
Those aren't good films!
*slap*
Try again.
That's why Chasing Amy has over 90 percent approval here right? 
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Originally Posted by Red Barchetta
That's why Chasing Amy has over 90 percent approval here right?
While I disagree with SSF on Chasing Amy, the tomatometer won't change the fact that he didn't like it. 
Besides, does the quality of his films really have anything to do with this?
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Originally Posted by Assassin
Are you suggesting that Dante's actions solely reflect the opinions of Kevin Smith and that we can use that character as a barometer for all of KS's opinions and beliefs?
It's not just a coincidence that 90% of Kevin Smith's characters are comic-book loving Star Wars geeks.
you suck, by the way.
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04-29-2005, 06:58 PM |
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As much as I love Kevin Smith as a writer I have to keep in mind the fact that he is an unapolegetic, diehard SW fanboy and defends the first the two prequels with the same passion found in his ROTS review. Given also the fact that Lucas hand picked him to work on the SW TV series also doesn't lend well to his objectivity.
Seriously, Smith has his head so far up Lucas's a<i>s</i>s that he uses the light coming down his throat to read.
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While I disagree with SSF on Chasing Amy, the tomatometer won't change the fact that he didn't like it.
Besides, does the quality of his films really have anything to do with this?
Nah not really. But I was pointing out the fact that it's well liked.
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I skipped the spoilers from this review, but is this ACTUALLY Kevin Smith's review? If it is, I'm stoked.
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Yes, it's genuine. But like posters above have mentioned...Kevin loves all the prequels.
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Originally Posted by Red Barchetta
That's why Chasing Amy has over 90 percent approval here right?
An especially good reason!
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Originally Posted by Sxottlan
Besides, does the quality of his films really have anything to do with this?
Sure it does! If Kevin Smith was a smarter man he'd make better movies. But alas he is not a smarter man, which explains why he loves Star Wars prequels.
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Smith has his head so far up Lucas's a<i>s</i>s that he uses the light coming down his throat to read.
I like this comment the best. I so harsly proves that anyone who takes value in anything Smith says about Star Wars (or anything he says period...if I may add) is a duchebag.
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Originally Posted by Aram Fingal
Smith is an unapologetic Star Wars fanboy, which is fine. I appreciate anyone who can be so unabashed in their opinion, especially in the face of overwhelming cynicism about the current state of Star Wars.
That said, I think relatively little of his filmography, as long as we're tangentally mentioning that. I find Clerks overrated, Chasing Amy juvenile, Dogma heavy-handed. Perhaps ironically, Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back is my favorite film of his, mostly because it is an unrestrained exercise in humorous self-indulgence, a filmmaking trait I think Smith is extremely gifted at. It's juvenile, funny, and has no pretensions to being more than that -- something I cannot say for the rest of his work.
I think Kevin Smith's films are funny, but not particulary insightful if you're over, say, 19 or so. That said, I take his review of Episode III as extremely good news.
Definitely agree about Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back. I dont agree about Chasing Amy though. It seems almost humble in its juvenile quest for truthfulness. And that is interesting.
About his review of Episode III, it's kind of irritating when talkes about it being "dark, dark, dark". As long as its fun Im cool. I remember watching that speeder chase scene in Attack of the Clones, and I literally felt my stomach and bladder elevate...hehe, nice sensations. Overall, I sympathize less with Anakin than with his circumstances much like Luke Skywalker. The circumstances are more the basis for the drama then anything else. In the spirit of these films, it seems the weight of their drama is measured by how much what they do effects those around them, which is why "Return of the Jedi" ends with this kind of social celebration as they seem to be like "hey guys we made it through and that must be worth something". As Hermit-like and reclusive as Lucas seems, his films, yes, all of them, in their ideology do not. The implications of Anakin's actions will be far weightier than our sympathy towards him. His actions will have an effect on all the characters so that we eventually find ourselves sympathizing with one of them, whether they be Obi-Wan, Padme, or even Yoda. This story seems more focused to me, whereas the original one seems to stray towards the Han-Leia subplot almost overwhelming the main plot thread which is one between a father and son. I find this whole saga particularly interesting because of the number of replacement surrogate father-figures throughout the films. Han Solo is cool but he's still just a really cool side character.
As enamored with the father-son thread as Star Wars fanboys seem with ESB, they often talk about the Han Solo-Leia scene with the carbonate. ROTJ gets so often so brutally discredited for its ewoks (of whom Im fond, heh) when it has some of the most touching father-son scenes reaching an almost gruesomely operatic peak that continued from ESB. Why do fanboys obsess so much over Jango Fett, the Greedo scene, and Han Solo. This is ultimately a story about the sins of the father or even the surrogate father visited upon the son. This is the main story arc of the whole saga and I find it fitting that the prequels choose to focus on that. There are little moments throughout the prequels that reveal Anakin to not be entirely at fault here. Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan as surrogate fathers have their arrogance put on display here and there, less so in AOTC, than in TPM. As Yoda describes it, it is "Qui-Gon's defiance" that finds itself extended in Obi-Wan and Anakin. Obi-Wan doesnt know whether to be a father figure or an older brother in AOTC, which I find pretty interesting, especially in how it plays out in the elevator when they are first introduced in AOTC. Obi-Wan is preachy but he is also michievous and competitive with Anakin when they describe their 'past' adventures. I love that sense of history between them in that elevator. It sounded very much like the serial "Star Wars" is....
I dont know, the more I think about it the more I like the films. On a gut level, I feel they are good and somehow cant escape that feeling. When people complain about them being shallow and lacking character development, I have to do this:??? and be honest with myself. When someone tries to argue that there is merit in the films and a certain amount of depth that makes them appealing, they get shat on for being pretentious and making them out to be more than they are. But isnt that more pretentious and snobby even to empirically designate the major consensus as the nature of things and therefore dictate what is 'shallow' and what is 'deep'?
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alas he is not a smarter man, which explains why he loves Star Wars prequels.
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Lame. That is a very lame thing to say. How many times do people have to be reminded that taste in movies doesnt need to be attacked to the point where it devolves into arguing a false dichotomy ad hominen.
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Sure it does! If Kevin Smith was a smarter man he'd make better movies. But alas he is not a smarter man, which explains why he loves Star Wars prequels.
This makes sense. Only an idiot could like the prequels. Smart people hate them.
Seriously, anti-fanboys like you around here are worse than fanboys. A fanboy make fail to see the flaws in a movie they love, but they rarely force their opinions on others.
An anti-fanboy, however, forces their opinion just like you did, suggesting only an idiot could like the prequels, only an idiot could actually have an opinion that differs from yours. Wow. Just wow.
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It's not just a coincidence that 90% of Kevin Smith's characters are comic-book loving Star Wars geeks.
you suck, by the way.
Thanks for not answering my question and the kind words...
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If Kevin Smith was a smarter man he'd make better movies.
Hmmm....so like Einstein would make the best movies ever?
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personally I don't think only an idiot could love the prequels. I think only fanatic fans who don't know a bad film when they see one because they are too defensive to criticism.
The first 3 were riddled with flaws - BUT they worked because they had spunk, they had character, a kind of fly-by-the-seat-of-your-pants kind of guts that I think people naturally respond to. Sure there was cheesy dialogue and bad acting acting but it all made it seem more genuine because of it.
The prequels take themselves too seriously and are loaded down with practically flawless CGI. Granted the fall of Vader is not suppose to be a cheerful upbeat story but I would have preferred something that was serious and yet not overly-serious to its importance at the same time.
I dismissed negative reviews of Episode I until I saw the film. After the film, I didn't immediately hate it but I was in a state of shock because I had hope for at least something mildly entertaining. The movie had flat uninteresting characters, pointless sub-plots that offered very little to the story (the journey thru the planet and all the big cgi fish and the overly long pod-race for example), an anakin who was too young to be interesting as a real tragic character, and lets not beat the dead horse of Jar Jar.
Had there never been a first 3 movies, I don't Episode I or II would have gathered enough interest or support for there ever to be Episodes III-VI.
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A couple of things....
1) Kevin Smith's review of EPIII can only be regarded as biased.
This is true. While it should probably go without saying, yes - my take on "Sith" is tainted by the fact that I like all the "Star Wars" films.
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He has gushed over EPI and EPII in the past and we know what happened with those films.
We do: those films were liked by some and not liked by others. This represented a development heretofore never recorded in over 100 years of cinema history.
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And aside from his zealot like devotion to the franchise, Kevin Smith has pretty poor taste in films.
I can't argue with this, as taste in film (and everything else in life) is pretty subjective. Yes, I've liked some pretty crappy flicks ("The Cutting Edge" is in my top 200). However, if this helps anyone get a better idea of the stuff I'm into, my top five favorite films of all time (in no particular order) are "Jaws", "JFK", "A Man for All Seasons", "Do the Right Thing", and "The Last Temptation of Christ". The next three would be "The Talented Mr. Ripley", "Citizen Kane", "Jerry Maguire". I'm still trying to figure out the last two to round off my top ten. Curiously, there are no "Star Wars" films in what is, thus far, the top eight.
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The man hasnt been able to create a decent film in years.
Also extremely subjective. That part about me being a man, I mean.
However, some (like me) could debate the poster's take on whether or not I've made a decent film "in years" or not. While the poster may not harbor any affection for my recent body of work, I can point him to a website full of people who'd disagree with him, or critics (both in print and on the web) who'd follow suit. In truth, it's probably more likely that the poster - a one Raziel, which I'm assuming is a 'net handle, because said poster feels the need to shield his secret identity from enemies who'd seek to do his loved ones harm - hasn't made a decent film (or any film, for that matter) in years, while I (like every filmmaker who's come before me and every filmmaker who'll come after me) have made films that have been considered to be **** by some and decent by others.
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His films combined have lost more money than they have grossed.
This is where the poster reveals him or herself (oh, **** it - it's gotta be a guy; no woman could be this petty and sad) to be full of ****, because this statement is patently untrue.
"Clerks"
Cost: $27,575, Theatrical Gross: $3.1 million, VHS (DVD figures not available): $6.169 mill
"Mallrats"
Cost: $6 million, Theatrical Gross: $2.1 million, DVD: Universal declines to issue figures, but Colleen Benn at Universal Home Video says, very coyly "Let's put it this way; we're doing a second version of the DVD. We only do that with titles that sell a lot. 'Fast Times', 'Animal House', 'Jaws', now 'Mallrats'."
"Chasing Amy:
Cost: $250,000, Theatrical Gross: $12 million, DVD: $12 million
"Dogma"
Cost: $10 million, Theatrical Gross: $30 million, DVD: Col/Tri declines to give financial figures, but Michael Stradford informs me that they shipped 800,000 of the standard edition of the DVD, and over 300,000 of the Special Edition, one year later.
"Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back"
Cost: $20 million, Theatrical Gross: $30 million, DVD: $38.5 million
"Jersey Girl"
Cost: $35 million, Theatrical Gross: $25 million, DVD: Financials not available, but Miramax Home Video head Shannon McIntosh informs me that we shipped over half a million units in the first week.
Even when you factor in P&A and marketing costs, it doesn't require (good) Will Hunting to do the math and see that the poster's statement that my films have "lost more money than they have grossed" is an ignorant crock of sh*t.
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Smith is also rumored to be be involved in the upcoming SW TV series project. DO you honestly think he would jeopardize his involvement with this by posting a bad or medoicre review of EPIII??? I dont think so.
Perhaps. Or before Fox Mulder here works himself into a frenzy with his conspiracy theory, might I suggest that if I, indeed, didn't like the flick, that I simply wouldn't have posted about seeing it in the first place.
See, in my world, if I don't like something, I try not to call attention to it. If I feel something sucks, I don't waste my time writing about it, unless I'm getting paid to state my opinion on the subject, or unless I'm asked about my take on it specifically (as with the "Magnolia" incident on my website, eons ago). The way-cool named Raziel holds forth on the subject of me and my flicks (even though, as he'd lead you to believe, he's not a fan) and as far as I know, nobody asked him his opinion, and he's not getting paid to offer it. This leads me to believe that Raziel - bad-*** name that, no-doubt, impresses chicks nothwithstanding - has a lot of free time on his hands; free time that would be better spent producing something rather than attempting to belittle those who do produce, or, say, chasing p*ssy. But no - here he sits, poo-pooing this film or that, as time marches on, bringing him ever closer to the grave and a legacy of invective-layered posts on a website.
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Wait for what, exactly, I find myself wondering?
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Finally, a glimmer of intelligence from our hero.
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Also, as pointed out by someone else, what the hell is up with all the "Darkness" crap??
"This is going to be the darkest SW yet!", The ones darker than the last one!"....What is this???
Who cares if it's darker or not. Does "darkness" guarantee a quality film??? NO
And yet, nobody maintained that "darkness" guaranteed a quality film. Raziel responds to an idea that nobody put forward, apparently falling into debate with himself.
Again, folks - I can't make anyone love me or the movies I've made (and will continue to make, long after the fire in the belly of the twelve year old Raziel subsides). However, I can correct misinformation like Raziel's loopy and uninformed take on the box office of the films I've made. Even though some would consider it a waste of my time, I've always felt that if I can't spare a few minutes to show up the jackasses in life, I'm not living to my fullest potential.
Yours,
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Which is odd, because I remember reading an article he wrote for July/August 2002 issue of Film Comment where he called watching the prequels like watching a train wreck.
You're remembering incorrectly, sir: in that piece (from the issue with Yoda on the cover), I wrote big praise for "Attack of the Clones" (surprise, surprise).
Said piece is also availble here, in the recently released Silent Bob Speaks (now in its third printing).
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Originally Posted by KevinSmith
You're remembering incorrectly, sir: in that piece (from the issue with Yoda on the cover), I wrote big praise for "Attack of the Clones" (surprise, surprise).
Said piece is also availble here, in the recently released Silent Bob Speaks (now in its third printing).
Welcome, Kevin.
I think you'll find the ratio of 'tards to average geeks here to be about 5:1, so enjoy the show!
By the way, I enjoyed Jersey Girl. One of Affleck's best performances (along with Phantoms, yo). And Liv Tyler was freakin' adorable.
- I.J.
P.S. - How can a guy get a job with your outfit?
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Actually, compared to most other sites, RT is one of the most tolerable you can find when it comes to a general forum. Though it suffers from it's fair share of spikes in stupidity, but generally most people here are pretty cool.
I also have a soft spot for your films, though my wife still hasn't forgiven me for dragging her to Jay And Silent Bob Strike Back.
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That was great. I almost wish I had been flamebaity enough to get my *** handed to me by Kevin Smith.
Almost.
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Actually, compared to most other sites, RT is one of the most tolerable you can find when it comes to a general forum. Though it suffers from it's fair share of spikes in stupidity, but generally most people here are pretty cool.
I also have a soft spot for your films, though my wife still hasn't forgiven me for dragging her to Jay And Silent Bob Strike Back.
You're right. There are some pretty great discussions around here. I guess it's just that the stupid threads seem to outnumber them by a good margin alot of the time. And I guess as we are getting into the "summer movie season" those "spikes in stupidity" are more frequent.
I still like it here (now somebody please fix the *jumping to the bottom of the thread* deal, already)...
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Yeah, that was good stuff. Well played Kevin.
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Originally Posted by Indiana Jules
You're right. There are some pretty great discussions around here. I guess it's just that the stupid threads seem to outnumber them by a good margin alot of the time. And I guess as we are getting into the "summer movie season" those "spikes in stupidity" are more frequent.
I still like it here (now somebody please fix the *jumping to the bottom of the thread* deal, already)...
It was good for a while, then I come on today and BAM! Bottom of the thread!
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Originally Posted by Indiana Jules
P.S. - How can a guy get a job with your outfit?
By randomly asking a guy on a message board who has a Kevin Smith username of course.
What a maroon.
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Originally Posted by Joe_Banana
By randomly asking a guy on a message board who has a Kevin Smith username of course.
What a maroon.
You didn't click on the links to see it was Kevin then? Not that asking on the internet is going to work anyway
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Originally Posted by KevinSmith
You're remembering incorrectly, sir: in that piece (from the issue with Yoda on the cover), I wrote big praise for "Attack of the Clones" (surprise, surprise).
Said piece is also availble here, in the recently released Silent Bob Speaks (now in its third printing).
Ah Kevin, forget Star Wars.........lets get to the comic-book realm.
I think a DD sequel with pal Benjamin is needed at some point...............
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Ah Kevin, forget Star Wars.........lets get to the comic-book realm.
I think a DD sequel with pal Benjamin is needed at some point...............
Seriously Kevin whats up with Daredevil Target and Spider-Man? Are we ever going to see the next issues or are they just going to cut straight to TPB?
Are you still miffed at Bendis for wrapping things up with Bulls Eye?
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You didn't click on the links to see it was Kevin then?
Woah, I didn't. How cool is that.
Hey Kevin, give me a paying job.
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There is only thing that this movie can have that will make me completely happy after Episode 1: A graphic hour-long torture sequence of Jar Jar Binks. I want to have him beg for death screaming "MESA JUST WANTS TO DIE!! END MESA LIFE, MESA BEGS YOU!!". Or the following exchange of Dialogue:
*Jar Jar and Mace Windu sitting together at a table, having a discussion. Jar Jar annoys Mace, and Mace grabs his tongue*
Mace: Say yousa again, mother****er, I dare you, say yousa one more goddamn time!
*Mace lets go of Jar Jar's tongue*
Jar Jar: Yousa scaawy!!
*Mace proceeds to slowly end Jar Jar's life, cutting peices off with his lightsaber inch by inch*
Hey, I can dream, can't I????
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Wow, intelligent well thought out responses Kevin. Can you get me a high paying job in hollyweird? 
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Wow, intelligent well thought out responses Kevin. Can you get me a high paying job in hollyweird?
Hey, I asked first. But you can be my second assistant director, I guess. I'll have to take this up with 'Kev' first.
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Hey, I asked first. But you can be my second assistant director, I guess. I'll have to take this up with 'Kev' first.
Hey alright, it's a deal. Work is work. 
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Hey alright, it's a deal. Work is work.
Still it's kind of weird.
It's not like any of us call Tom Cruise a midget on the forums and expect him to show up at our front door the next day with a tape measure.
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Hey, I asked first. But you can be my second assistant director, I guess. I'll have to take this up with 'Kev' first.
Can I be the dolly grip?
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Can I be the dolly grip?
Hey man, don't bother me with these trivialities. Barchetta makes the 'lesser' calls, me and the top dog are busy making the big decisions, those swear words don't write themselves into every KS film.
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Seriously Kevin whats up with Daredevil Target and Spider-Man? Are we ever going to see the next issues or are they just going to cut straight to TPB?
Scripts for issues 4 and 5 of "Spider-Man/Black Cat" have been turned in. I turn in issue 6 this week.
"DD: Target" is up next.
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Are you still miffed at Bendis for wrapping things up with Bulls Eye?
God, no.
And not that anyone needed my say-so, but that was something I signed off on. My big mistake was bogarting Bullseye away from Bendis in the first place, back when he wanted to use him in an earlier DD arc.
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I DON'T CARE A<font face="Palatino Linotype">BOUT KEVIN SMITH!! KILL JAR JAR!!!
KILL JAR JAR NOW!!!
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I think a DD sequel with pal Benjamin is needed at some point...............
I think the closest you're gonna get (for awhile, at least, if not forever) is that cut scene on the "Elektra" dvd.
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Wow, intelligent well thought out responses Kevin. Can you get me a high paying job in hollyweird?
I can, sir. I offer you a position on my next flick as my personal fluffer.
So much for intelligent, well thought-out responses...
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Hey Kevin, thanks for posting with us. How's the Mewes doing these days? Are you excited for Batman Begins?
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Still it's kind of weird.
It's not like any of us call Tom Cruise a midget on the forums and expect him to show up at our front door the next day with a tape measure.
It would seem Tom is too busy bussing with Katie Holmes to dig out his tape measurer.
Me? I get my bussing out of the way early, so I can correct misinformation people write about me on the internet.
This proves, once and for all, that Tom Cruise is far smarter than me.
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Hey Kevin, thanks for posting with us. How's the Mewes doing these days?
Mewes is doing extremely well. On the upside, the dude just lapped the two year mark of total sobriety. On the downside, he recently acted opposite Paris Hilton in a flick that wasn't shot with infrared.
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Mewes is doing extremely well. On the upside, the dude just lapped the two year mark of total sobriety. On the downside, he recently acted opposite Paris Hilton in a flick that wasn't shot with infrared.
Mewes? Sober? Doesn't surprise me. Everytime I saw him in a special making of thing, he didn't seem anything like his famous character. It actually seemed reversed when Kevin and Jason are out of character.
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You should stay at this forum. Not specifically for your own benefit, but it's pretty cool for us.
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Anyone ever hear Smith's opinion's on other movies? A lot of the best films of last year he thought was crap.
More misinformation...
What films of last year, sir, did I ever say or write were crap?
For the curious (and to deflate the awesomely-named BigTuna's claims), here are the lists of my top ten for last year, as well as my honorable mentions.
1)Kill Bill, Vol. 2
2)The Incredibles
3)Shaun of the Dead
4)The Aviator
5)Million Dollar Baby
6)Friday Night Lights
7)Spartan
8)Eternal Sunshine
9)Man on Fire
10)Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban
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Super Size Me
Bush¹s Brain
Jersey Girl (I don't care if I made it; I really liked this flick)
Hellboy
I, Robot
Bourne Supremacy
Kinsey
Garden State
Dawn of the Dead
Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow
Spider-Man 2
Ray
There are some flicks (like "Bad Education" and "Hotel Rwanda") that I still haven't seen. There are some flicks (like "Sideways") that didn't make either list because, well, I didn't get into them (though never called them "crap").
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How do you feel about Batman Begins?
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There are some flicks (like "Bad Education" and "Hotel Rwanda") that I still haven't seen.
Both awesome movies. Hotel Rwanda has a sort of a Dawn of the Dead(original) vibe to it.
And finally someone else here who agrees Kill Bill Vol. 2 is the best of the year
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How do you feel about Batman Begins?
Looking forward to it. Any Batman flick is better than no Batman flick.
With the exception, perhaps, of "Batman and Robin".
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You should stay at this forum. Not specifically for your own benefit, but it's pretty cool for us.
Says the guy who wrote this.
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This is great,Thanks Kevin for once again showing me the funniest thing of the day. lol. I don't think Kevin ever told anyone to take his review as a real critic review but more as an experience that he posted in his blog (it's funny as hell BTW). I think he would agree with this... Watch the movie and come up with your own opinion because in the end only you know what you like. To everyone who bitched about Kevin... You just got schooled by him and to all who like him...... Come with me over to the Viewaskew.com message boards.
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How were you able to see this movie so early.
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Says the guy who wrote this.
Hey, I was only questioning your 'hater' attack.
From that episode of Clerks, and your interview alongside Pegg, Wright for Empire magazine (or whatever magazine, I just read it online; funny stuff BTW, I used that bit about Darth sneaking in to fix C3PO with my buddies as if it were my own witty remark) it sounded as if you were a prequel dis-liker too.
I wouldn't mind if you use that post in one of your movies as the cause for some cross-country Jay and Silent Bob road trip, though.
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This is probally true. I'm guilty, sorry.
Well, for the record, I didn't mean you. Some others, who shall remain nameless.
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how do we know it is Kevin Smith, sorry my computer is very slow and it will not let me go back to earlier pages to see any proof etc....
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Scripts for issues 4 and 5 of "Spider-Man/Black Cat" have been turned in. I turn in issue 6 this week.
"DD: Target" is up next.
God, no.
And not that anyone needed my say-so, but that was something I signed off on. My big mistake was bogarting Bullseye away from Bendis in the first place, back when he wanted to use him in an earlier DD arc.
All of this is great news.
I apreciate you taking the time to field questions that other irate fan boys have no doubt been bellowing at you for some time now.
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It would seem Tom is too busy bussing with Katie Holmes to dig out his tape measurer.
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This proves, once and for all, that Tom Cruise is far smarter than me.
For a guy who's supposed to gay he's working awfully hard to keep us guessing.
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Well, for the record, I didn't mean you. Some others, who shall remain nameless.
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how do we know it is Kevin Smith, sorry my computer is very slow and it will not let me go back to earlier pages to see any proof etc....
He left this link (http://viewaskew.com/theboard/viewt...p=917112#917112)
Which I myself have already started using to convince chicks I meet on the internet that I'm a famous guy who likes the Tonight Show.
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Thanks for the post, although I'm still pissed off from Attack of the Clones..
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Originally Posted by Clockers
How were you able to see this movie so early.
Phil Benson, who was an associate producer on "Jersey Girl", was, for many years, a supervising sound editor at Skywalker (indeed, having worked with Peter Jackson on "The Frighteners", Phil was offered the key sound gig on the "Rings" trilogy, which he turned down to branch away from the sound ghetto by taking a production gig on... wait for it... "Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back"; he still maintains he doesn't miss the Oscar he would've won). I asked him to drop a line to prequel producer Rick McCallum to ask if I could see "Sith" as soon as humanly possible. Rick (a great guy I'd met during the "Dogma" mix up at Skywalker who let us use all sorts of "SW" sound effects for "Strike Back") got me into a screening for marketing execs on the Fox lot (described in greater detail here).
So, you see, something good came out of "Jersey Girl" after all.
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05-02-2005, 04:23 PM |
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Thanks for answering my question and I hope I do like Episode 3, I would like atleast one of the prequels to be excellence.Anyways I really do respect your work and your the only person in Hollywood who gets the superhero genre.But I wanted to know one thing was John Peters really gonna add a giant spider,gay robot sidekick,killer polar bear,superman flies with the use of a suit, etc to the superman movie.
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05-02-2005, 04:27 PM |
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Originally Posted by Clockers
was John Peterson really gonna add a giant spider to the superman movie.
Peters.
And, yeah - that was his plan. If he'd had his way, it would've been a giant Thanagarian Snare Beast (aka, a big spider) in the third act.
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05-02-2005, 04:30 PM |
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I guess it's to be expected from a ex-hair dresser who doesn't know how to read..
Thanks for chatting with me I hope the boards shows you kindness.
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Hey Kevin (or Mr. Smith, it's online so I assume it's informal), just wanted to ask you a completely unrelated question, though I guess this post was side-tracked from Star Wars anyway.
Where'd you come up with Sweeney Todd for the musical in Jersey Girl? Did you just think of a depraved musical and that came to mind, or do you just like it, because I just thought it was very random and cool that you chose that. And do you hate Cats (I couldn't stand it, though there were a couple good songs)?
Also, they showed An Evening with Kevin Smith on Encore I believe, and you are officially one of the funniest people alive. Only other time I've laughed that hard at one person was watching Eddie Izzard (British stand-up comic).
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Wait! This is the real Kevin Smith, and not an alias?
Wow.
I had no idea celebrities posted on RT.
This place rules.
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Originally Posted by CBright7831
I had no idea celebrities posted on RT.
This place rules.
Allegedly Roger Ebert pops in to post. Is he a celebrity?
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05-02-2005, 05:14 PM |
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Hey Kev, I didn't know you came here too. Cool.
I'd like to take this opportunity to remind you all that the "Surviving Christmas" 2-disc special edition DVD is coming out next month. They're still weighing the possibility of a director's unrated cut. I hope they release it, because it fixes everything.
Also, I'm sleeping with Jennifer Garner. And you're not.
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Also, I'm sleeping with Jennifer Garner. And you're not.
shows what you know.
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More misinformation...
What films of last year, sir, did I ever say or write were crap?
For the curious (and to deflate the awesomely-named BigTuna's claims), here are the lists of my top ten for last year, as well as my honorable mentions.
1)Kill Bill, Vol. 2
2)The Incredibles
3)Shaun of the Dead
4)The Aviator
5)Million Dollar Baby
6)Friday Night Lights
7)Spartan
8)Eternal Sunshine
9)Man on Fire
10)Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban
Honorable Mentions
Super Size Me
Bush¹s Brain
Jersey Girl (I don't care if I made it; I really liked this flick)
Hellboy
I, Robot
Bourne Supremacy
Kinsey
Garden State
Dawn of the Dead
Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow
Spider-Man 2
Ray
There are some flicks (like "Bad Education" and "Hotel Rwanda") that I still haven't seen. There are some flicks (like "Sideways") that didn't make either list because, well, I didn't get into them (though never called them "crap").
Did you see Collateral?
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This makes sense. Only an idiot could like the prequels. Smart people hate them.
Duh!
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Seriously
I remind you were talking about the Star Wars Prequels.
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anti-fanboys like you around here are worse than fanboys. A fanboy make fail to see the flaws in a movie they love, but they rarely force their opinions on others.
An anti-fanboy, however, forces their opinion just like you did, suggesting only an idiot could like the prequels, only an idiot could actually have an opinion that differs from yours. Wow. Just wow.
There's a lot of films out there that I don't like, but many consider to be masterpieces.
But this is not one of those films. We're talking about the Star Wars Prequels!!!
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Lame. That is a very lame thing to say. How many times do people have to be reminded that taste in movies doesnt need to be attacked to the point where it devolves into arguing a false dichotomy ad hominen.
Yes I agree with you.
But may I remind you were talking about Kevin Smith and the Star Wars Prequels!
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Did you see Collateral?
I did.
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I think I'm going to not insult celebrities on RT anymore since they apparantly show up.
..........I still hate Paris Hilton.
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Where'd you come up with Sweeney Todd for the musical in Jersey Girl? Did you just think of a depraved musical and that came to mind, or do you just like it, because I just thought it was very random and cool that you chose that.
I've been a fan of Sondheim's "Sweeney Todd" since I was nine. To me, it's the most literary musical ever made. Those lyrics are amazing.
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And do you hate Cats (I couldn't stand it, though there were a couple good songs)?
I've never seen "Cats". Only saw the commercial for it millions of times, having grown up on the other side of the river from the home of "Cats".
Thanks for the kind words about "Evening With", sir.
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Hey Kev, I didn't know you came here too. Cool.
**** your "Cool." I told you casting your girlfriend in our flick was a bad idea, mother****er.
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Originally Posted by thisguyjones
Allegedly Roger Ebert pops in to post. Is he a celebrity?
That's a tough one.
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I think I'm going to not insult celebrities on RT anymore since they apparantly show up.
Keep casting your aspersions on your betters, sir - you have nothing to be afraid of. Real celebrities never frequent message boards on the internet; that activity's reserved for merely quasi-celebrities with spotty track records and an outdated sense of fair play.
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Keep casting your aspersions on your betters, sir - you have nothing to be afraid of. Real celebrities never frequent message boards on the internet; that activity's reserved for merely quasi-celebrities with spotty track records and an outdated sense of fair play.
So ripping on any of the a<i>ss</i>hats on The Real World is out too ?
Just checking my boundries.
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Hey Kevin! I actually havent seen any of your movies, shame on me I know, which one do you recommend me to start with?
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I like how we all become boy scouts when a celebrity is in our midst.
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I like how we all become boy scouts when a celebrity is in our midst.
And yet he's done nothing to deserve a cordial reception.
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And yet he's done nothing to deserve a cordial reception.
I'm not pissing him off and getting jay and Silent Bob on my a<i>ss.
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I'm not pissing him off and getting jay and Silent Bob on my a<i>ss.
What's he going to do, mime you to death?
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Hey Kevin! I actually havent seen any of your movies, shame on me I know, which one do you recommend me to start with?
Start with my first flick: "Citizen Kane". Yes, it's black and white, but it's worth your time.
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Hey Kev, you're an inspiration to us movie director wanna-bes. I hope the film I'm currently directing achieves half the success Clerks did. The 10th anniversary special you did for the IFC was very informative and inspirational. My movie's not costing me 297 thousand, but it sure is cutting deep into my DVD buying capabilities if you know what I mean. I just hope we can make enough on the movie to pay off my student loans!
Check my movie out if you have a few minutes. Anything nice you say about the movie will be put on the posters!
P.S. to keep this thread a little on topic, my roomate says that Tom Stoppard helped on the dialogue for ROTS. Anyone else hear this or can confirm it?
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And where the hell is Matt Damon ? I thought Ben Affleck had a mind meld with him that meant they needed to be within 5 miles of each other at all times.
Damon hit the bricks when he saw Gigli.
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P.S. to keep this thread a little on topic, my roomate says that Tom Stoppard helped on the dialogue for ROTS. Anyone else hear this or can confirm it?
Actually Chris Neil did.
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And yet he's done nothing to deserve a cordial reception.
Have I not been cordial to all here except those who'd post blatant untruths? And even to those few I haven't been particularly offensive or harsh.
If you feel my comportment on these last few pages doesn't merit cordiality in return, then I think your standards may be too high.
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